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    Choosing cheap Chinese Products over Thai jobs

    By needchange, Created on: 17/10/2010, Last updated on: 24/11/2015

    » Everyone knows the story of what has been happening in the US in terms of the trade deficit with China. If you go to Walmart, almost every product sold there comes from China. Walmart is America's biggest retailer if I'm correct. The trend is the same at many other retailers around the country. So...

    • drake commented : It's all coming form the same supply line which probably is from someone who is buy cheap products from China. But even the new superstores are selling this crap. I recently heard that some low-quality pirated products from China made their way to the US. They looked exactly like higher quality products and had the labels and packaging which decieved everyone. In the end they were discovered when they were used. The didn't perform like the brandname ones. Stopping these kind of products is difficult now that pirating has advanced so much.[/quote:288ih6hj] Yup, you are right on both but this is also an issue of affordability VS bling and/or outright fraud. On one hand there are superstores which specializes in low cost Chinese tools in the US. and while the tools aren't [i:288ih6hj]Craftsman[/i:288ih6hj] or [i:288ih6hj]Snap-On[/i:288ih6hj] they will get you by for the cost of just a few beers. On the other hand there are fake brand-name goods from China that are sold in low end stores in the US at heavy discount. The disti. knows they are fake, the buyer knows or suspects but they don't care because they are cheap. These counterfeits are destroyed whenever the Customs guys get a hold of the shipment. And then there's an issue with tainted industrial goods I'm sure you've heard of like the lot of Propylene Glycol that was known to contain Ethylene Glycol but tagged as Pharmaceutical grade Propylene Glycol and sold through the Chinese Govt. clearing house then ended up in cough syrup in Panama in 2006 ? Or the tainted honey which was sold to Thai packaging houses at a discount but without disclosure and then rejected (for the second time) by the EU inspectors. Or the plastic laced seaweed..... [quote:288ih6hj]A few more notes I want to bring up in all this about low quality products is about why change might not happen so quickly. First, there are those making money from pushing cheap junk from China so they don't want change. Second, the businesses here don't have a lot of foreign competition due to laws so they have more freedom to control change. Lastly, the wealthiest people who have the loudest voice for change don't speak out. This is because these people don't actually have to buy from the local shops. The wealthy people in Thailand I know don't think twice about buying something super expensive for the quality. These products are super expensive because they aren't allowed into the country in any large quantities. In addition, many of these products are smuggled in when wealthy people or others travel abroad. So my point is that Thailand's wealthy don't have to shop in mainsteam shops. They may own the shops or businesses supplying the crap products but they don't actually use them themselves. So there is a divide between what the average person has to face and what the wealthy big business people face. There's a lot of money to be made in Thailand for any Thai who wants to improve quality here. Quality is one this that is lacking across the spectrum in terms of products and services. In order to know this you really have to visit the developed world to see how different quality could be in terms of products.[/quote:288ih6hj] Believe it or not, the 'rich merchants' you are down on are stuck with the same extension cord you're using. The fairly expensive POS power strip I bought at Central was just as much a POS as the cheap ones I got at Seri Ctr. OTOH, the '[i:288ih6hj]cheap Chinese[/i:288ih6hj]' strips that I use in the US came from Walmart for about the same price I paid for the ones from Seri and they works great. Again, it's what the market will allow. The price/quality/need equation must make sense for all in a transaction. Purchasing power is a big thing. Walmart can dictate a nice product spec and still get a sweet price break because of the volume they are buying , the guy at Seri can't go to the same vendor and get the same deal. I'd recently picked up a Fluke clamp-on AC current meter, made in USA industrial grade instrument and certified accurate, for a modest price of $365 before tax. A similar meter from China is on sale this week for $14, the plastic housing is junk and the certificate is non-traceable. I'm not going near it. There's a $160 Mitutoyo digital caliper on my bench, it had served me well for almost 20 years. I can't tell the difference in term of accuracy between it and a Chinese version that only costs $15. Whatever it is, isn't it enough if it works adequately and it is affordable ? I mean, how good does it have to be to make ppl happy and how much would anyone be willing to spend on it anyway ? Speaking of visiting the developed world. I'm sure you've heard of the latest kiddies fad in the US? $50 [i:288ih6hj]cupcakes[/i:288ih6hj].....!

    • needchange commented : It's all coming form the same supply line which probably is from someone who is buy cheap products from China. But even the new superstores are selling this crap. I recently heard that some low-quality pirated products from China made their way to the US. They looked exactly like higher quality products and had the labels and packaging which decieved everyone. In the end they were discovered when they were used. The didn't perform like the brandname ones. Stopping these kind of products is difficult now that pirating has advanced so much.

    • bashar commented : only finish product the whole supply chain should be competitive which China has expect some agricultural products like Tapioca, Rice, Rubber, Suger etc. Regarding automotive industry, Thailand still competitive due to Japanese OEM's huge support and strong China's local demand. I'm afraid Thailand may lose automotive industry to China once their local supply is higher than the demand. Thanks all you guys to share your openion.

    • bew commented : foreign technologies through supply linkage, transfer of manpower, local content regulation and other means. While the Chinese employees who left foreign companies can start up their business, their Thai counterparts can't do. Because of poor education system & a widespread worldview of Art/Craft/Agriculture Cottage in Thai society, Thai staff who left foreign hi-tech firms can't handle technology transfer for their upstart firms. So Thai firms can't move up the technological ladder like Japanese, Korean, Taiwanese firms have done. Poorly trained human resources are the main obstruction of technological development. Because labour costs in Thailand is rising, most light industries have moved to PRC, Indonesia & Vietnam. The low skill labour lost their job and can't move to work in service sector. Now Thailand is struck in the middle, between inability to compete with PRC, Vietnam & Indonesia in low-cost manufacturing product, and inability to compete with Japan, S Korea, Taiwan & even PRC in hi-tech products. So PM Abhisit urges Thai private sector to diversify the economy, but how? Shall we go for tourism & hospitality business? This is a failure of mentality among Thai elites. You can't reach self-sufficient economy without good technology on hand. Technological development has long been ignored in Thailand, unfortunately.

    • drake commented : infrastructure and inadequate supply of electrical energy. Without electricity there is no industry. Look like VietNam got that msg loud and clear and is seriously doing something about it by committing to a Nuke. Thai govt., well, they are still tooling about on that subject as if they've got all the time in the world. They might get around to decide to [i:1vwk1lbc]talk[/i:1vwk1lbc] about this sometime after hell froze over and all the foreign Green Nut NGOs or (foreign) special interest lobby had stop meddling, and all the officials agree on their piece of the pie. I mean, they've only been talking about digging a canal across the Kra Isthmus (คอคอดกระ) since the day of King Narai and nothing has been done so far beyond kicking the tires and a lot more talk. There's always t[i:1vwk1lbc]he next life[/i:1vwk1lbc] to get around to do it, right ?

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