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    family visa

    By Anonymous, Created on: 02/01/2004, Last updated on: 12/09/2006

    » When the Thai government will allow foreigners with Thai spouse and children to own a one year visa without the need to travel out of the country every 3 month or to show 800 thousands bahts in a bank account, this is very unfair and even most of the Thais don't earn this sum per year, why this discrimination...

    • Anonymous commented : Well it seems the author knows about the US immigration policy very well, but let us look a bit farther, is it all about Thais going to US or the other way round? how about the foreigners being harrassed daily on the streets of Bangkok by police---and immigration? (All of a sudden anybody in uniform here in Thailand can ask a foreigner about passport). How about people living in Thailand for years, married with kids yet without resident permit?, how about Africans that are on daily basis harrassed, picked up sometimes left to rot away at immigration detention center?, The Thai government should for once grant legal status to foreigners living living in Thailand in form of "Resident permit" irrespective of race or material status.

    • Anonymous commented : I walked the streets of Bangkok, traveled to the Golden Triangle area, Mae Hong Sorn, Issan and the south all the way to the Malaysian border. Except when entering the country (Thailand) I have never been asked for ID (except hotels) nor have I ever been stopped or harassed by any police. In fact, I must say I have been treated with extreme politeness by all authorities I encountered. But then again, I treat every one of them with respect. Thailand has it's laws, follow them and everything will be OK.

    • Anonymous commented : I think what the post may have been referring to was some raids on Bangkok night clubs, where hundreds of farang were charged with not carrying their passports. There was one notorious incident at the Q Club, in particular. The police were looking for drugs - but when they found next to none, they charged large numbers for not carrying their passports. To make the raid worthwhile, it' been suggested. Under Thai law, foreigners are required to carry their passports at all times. Somewhat impractical, even dangerous, you might say, and somewhat unjust - given that Thais are not required to carry theirs in many farang countries. But there you are : obey Thailand's laws. At very least carry a photocopy of your passport. Those who did at Q Club were reportedly given lesser fines.

    • 65 replies, 24,845 views

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    Marry in Thailand 1st then Apply for Immigrant Visa to USA

    By Anonymous, Created on: 15/05/2004, Last updated on: 23/09/2007

    » I'm an US citizen living here in Northern California. I plan to get married sometime next year in Thailand to a Thai woman who works as a registered nurse, as she plans on moving here in the US afterwards. I researched the US consulate in Bangkok and US Immigration (USCIS.gov) and sort of understand...

    • 17 replies, 8,925 views

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    Dowery

    By Anonymous, Created on: 26/05/2004, Last updated on: 09/03/2007

    » Hello and thanks to all that responded to my last questions. Those of you who have been following my last questions thanks. I am set to marry in Nov or Dec and I talked to her family. My dowery is set at 2 milllion bath and I already gave a 200,000 bath strater to show that I was interested. What...

    • Anonymous commented : Gina. Sorry, that you felt that way. No, I am not making person attack against you. I am merely stated my observations and experiences. You have been polluting yourself with too much of the far side feminism. Thai women will not advance socially and economically if they are trying to immitate fell feminise movements that now very much dominated with lesbian agendas. In term of western family values, mainstream family units have reduced to fewer and fewer every years. The western subcultures have become increasingly more dominant every years. It is something that Thais do not need to learn. Yes, it is destroying Thai culture little by little like in Bangkok and other urban areas. Most Thai families do not have proper child rearing and nursuring skills, because they have mixed messages from subcultures and lack of traditional Thai skills themselves. You will not see these types of fantasies with rural girls who daily chores are to feed their families. Where tasks are segregated to each family members according to their sex and age. The recent news suggested that more and more Thai girls are having sex at younger and younger age, and they are catching STDs' earlier too. In the future, dowery system that is based on the girl's virginity and high moral standards will eventually becoming more and more rarer occasion/event. Many male foreigners from the west, who are living and working, are now trying to corrupt Thai culture by suggesting to Thai girls that dowery system is counter equality; they are promoting premarital sex and co-habilitation. The girlfriend and boyfriend western system where people are having casual sex at the minimum cost to the men. One good example is that western men, who are teaching foreign languages to Thai girls, would engage in sexual activities with their students. It is very rare for Thai male teachers to do it since there are system in place to deal with these Thai teachers. Now, these new generation Thai girls at college level are doing it with their foreign teachers and students for free and casual with impermanent relationship. These western men knew that they would have to go to the brothels like the local for sex if they could find some naive girls to be their girlfriends. So Gina and other Thai girls, all of you do not have to worry about the dowery system or other traditional Thai culture. The Thai urban subculture is growing with rapid pace and influences from young foreigners who are living and working in Thailand. Thai men will have to ask for virginity police if the girl families are asking for dowery, since these Thai girls are not as they used to be....

    • Anonymous commented : My wife to be is Thai/Chinese (Taechew) from Chinatown Bangkok. Her huge extended families own many businesses and properties and live in a massive house with many staff/servants. She is degree educated and has traveled all over the world. Not previously married. Definitely no children Recently I went to the brothers wedding. He paid a million baht worth of gold, a million baht worth of diamond sets. (Rings, necklaces earrings etc) diamond studded Rolex. Other gifts. And a large sum of cash. 700+ guests (oddly including many senior police) at one of the best hotels in Bangkok. They are by any standards a wealthy family. One thing that hasn’t been mentioned in this discussion is that wealthy families give back the Dowry. They did with my fiancés big sister. Even though he is from a wealthy family as well. They are not as rich as these lot. It’s all about face. To be seen to not need the dowry gains face. Although somewhat insulting. Firstly one must present at least a million baht. Then your family is not perceived as being wealthy enough so it’s given back. Funny old system. To the guy who’s been quoted 2 million. Unless she’s Royal in which case they would not be introducing a foreigner to the family. So you can cancel that one out. The only reason would be if she belonged to senior of the main 3 Police, Army, government (criminal organizations that run Thailand) it which case the dowry likely given back. Figures are difficult but if the family is not clearly “Hi So” High Society 500,000 baht would be good place to “Cap" Thai dowry’s. Also find out what family and friends paid of equal status. 40,000 seems to be about normal in most case that i've asked. 440,000 is another price that’s kicked around. Think its to do with the price of gold that is in some cases matched. Personally I’m thinking about a million baht but in my case the mother has already decided “which” house to give us. Hope I’ve got it right ;-)

    • Anonymous commented : My message may appear as if I'm a faminist. Introspectively I don't think I am. I believe in the equality of all human beings. I am disheartened to see discrimination and social injuctice towards the less fortunate and the minority. I am leaning towards an independent rather than being the extreem leftist or rightist. (I'll vote for Busch though because I do believe Kerry has the tendency to lean on whichever directions the wind blows) Anyway I would just stick to the topic at hand. I believe what you have said is true about the change that is happening now in Bangkok. Years and years of western influence have effected us culturally. More and more young people are in favour of modernisation and frown upon old tradition as being too conservative and impractical. As I've mentioned, I do not object to 'Dowerey' system as long as it's within reason. It's true that money is important to provide security and sustain our livelyhood, but money should not be gained by a marriage of convenience. Financial rewards should come from one own achievement and I believe the probable way to acquire that is through higher education and personal perseverence.

    • 61 replies, 27,697 views

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    getting divorced my mail.

    By Anonymous, Created on: 13/06/2004, Last updated on: 22/01/2008

    » I am Thai woman. I got married American about 1 and half years ago in Thailand. Now I want to get divorced and he doesn't want to fly here to give me divorced. He would like me to send him money for the ticket, hotel and food for a week in Thailand. And that will cost me alot of money. I have talked...

    • Anonymous commented : Hi Jeff. You need to tell more about your fiance's background and her family's status. This would determine the dowry/bride price. It seemed that you will have a village wedding events. The cost would depend on the number of people who will attend your wedding reception, and it is usually in the evening. You can calculate the cost at about 200 baht to 500 baht per head. The traditional wedding ceremony will take place at her home in the morning before noon with family members and important guests. Then the merit giving and Buddha service at about 10:00 AM to 11:00 AM. The monks will eat and give holly water than leave by noon. They will invite 5, 7, 9 monks. It would depend on the availability of monks in the area and or the status of her family. You will have to pay someone to drive them over to her house. They would make gifts (usually household items) for each monks with money donation too. Each guest or each family will make about 1,000 baht gift or more, or they may bring other none monetary gifts. It would depend on their relationships with your fiance's family. I would not bring him 100,000 in cash. You need to give him bank cashier check and make a enlarge copy to show at the wedding reception. You can make a color copy at Kinko at 8 x 12 or larger. You can bring about $5,000 in $100 denomination. You can open an account with ATM card at Bank of America in Bangkok, so that you could manage the account while you are in USA also. This would be your spending account in Thailand. You can withdraw in Thai baht at the ATM machine to pay for wedding expenses. There is no need to rent wedding clothes. It is ok for you to get marry in other than black western suit and tie. She needs to custom make her traditional Thai silk dresses. NO, I would not give them anymore money. Since it is appeared that they will keep this money. If they are going to rebuild their house, than you could offer to help since you will be living their sometimes. If she is able to work in USA, she could sent them money later. Or she can give them some of her allowance.

    • Anonymous commented : rom what she explained me) in thailand, the family of the groom would help him get that much money... but my family won't (and can't) help. ...and I also need to count on myself for paying (50% of) the organisation of the wedding, which shall (additionally?) include many plane tickets. But I understood her point and resolved that if I have to do it, so I shall. Then, the next time we discussed that, she told me that it should be something like 2 or 3 million bahts!!! there are limits to my bank accounts and this is crazy, even if she claims that it will be given back. So, I saw many posts encouraging or discouraging the dowry. I have already chosen that I will give a dowry. BUT!!!! consider this: I have spent 8 months in BKK working 70 hours per week (in average). Now I have been spending 15 months without vacation in some other European country. I am not poor but I am not rich. I don't own a house. I take part in the cleaning, laundry, cooking and I treat her as my equal. I have good manners and I am respectful of her beliefs/culture/family. Can one still just reply with a plain "if you love her, just pay the dowry"?

    • 21 replies, 11,466 views

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    British Embassy in Bangkok

    By Anonymous, Created on: 05/10/2004, Last updated on: 25/02/2011

    » In March, my Thai partner wanted to visit me in London. Before granting a visa, the Embassy wanted a mountain of paperwork including proof of my income, whether or not I woned my own home and a whole lot of other things. At this stage, I have to say that we have many controversial issues in the UK...

    • Anonymous commented : There certainly are educated bar-girls. Indeed, as you most likely know Rooster, there are places in Bangkok and elsewhere, with very high-class working women. Indeed : all levels of the social scale. But essentially it's all the same game - they're after money, by one scam or another. AND there is a fundamental incompatiblity between Thai and Western ways of looking at marriage . I.e., in the Thai way the girl marries for money for her family. In the Western way, the girl is supposed to marry for love - since she, and her family, already have money and education.

    • 64 replies, 66,876 views

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