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    Getting my Thai girlfriend to America just for a two-week visit?

    By Anonymous, Created on: 10/07/2007, Last updated on: 28/09/2007

    » Hi all, Ive been trying to read everything I could about bringing Thai girlfriends over to America, but most topics I've come across have been about marrying them when they arrive. Here is my situation: I met my girlfriend in Thailand earlier this year. We talk at least an hour a day, email,...

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    is this a scam?

    By Anonymous, Created on: 02/12/2007, Last updated on: 23/01/2008

    » Can someone help me with this please? My father is an American who went overseas to work. He is making pretty good money. He has been there for about 4 years and has traveled to other countries when on his r&r. Thailand has become his favorite vacation spot. He is 52 years old and divorced...

    • Anonymous commented : facts : 1) foreigners are forbidden by law from owning land in Thailand. So your father has NOT bought land there - he has GIVEN land to his young wife : this is the way Thais look at this issue. I.e. she can expel your father from HER land whenever she likes. 2) foreigners are allowed to own a house built on Thai land - but the catch is : the Thai owning that land can order the foreigner to remove that farang house off that Thai land. Buyer beware !!!

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    Real Estate Ownership & Long Term Visas

    By Rochester, NY, Created on: 29/12/2008, Last updated on: 18/06/2009

    » My first introduction to Thailand was long ago. I've been married to my Thai wife 37 yrs. She visits family every 4-5 years. I recently returned for the first time and spent October visiting with family and old friends. I'm approaching that age when retirement is likely around the corner. The...

    • charlie commented : purchase through Thai spouse forbidden: Land Dept PHUKET CITY: The director general of the Land Department has reiterated that foreigners using Thai nominees to buy land anywhere in the country will have their land title deeds revoked if caught – even if the nominee in question is a lawfully wedded spouse. Land Department Director Anuwat Meteewiboonwut made the comments during a recent stop in Phuket as part of a nationwide inspection tour of 30 provinces. The tour is aimed at improving public services by land officials in three areas: dress, conduct when dealing with the public and working harder to eliminate a backlog of work. Many members of the public have complained that it takes up to a year to complete a transaction that should only take one day, he said. Mr Anuwat, a former governor of both Phang Nga and Samut Prakan provinces, said he was satisfied on the first two points, but rated the general level of success among land officials nationwide at speeding up their work rate at “only 30%”. The next round of inspection tours will come in July, after which time personnel changes will be considered if service does not improve, he said. “We have to keep pressure on them, otherwise the work will not get done,” he said. As for foreigners seeking to buy homes in Phuket, they can do so through the Condominium Act, which allows foreign ownership of up to 49% of any project, he said. Foreigners cannot use a Thai spouse as a nominee to buy property in Thailand, however. “If the Thai spouse has enough money to buy the house that is fine, but if the Thai has no money and uses money given to him or her by a foreigner to acquire property, that is against the law. If we check and find out later that a Thai person has been using money from a foreigner to buy land anywhere in Thailand, we will revoke title deeds,” he said. Mr Anuwat said the provisions of [Ministry of Interior] ministerial order 43 makes it difficult to issue land documents quickly, as it requires action from a number of different agencies. Desire for land on the island has also led to encroachment problems here, he said. As a key market for property companies, Phuket is a constant source of problems and complaints to the director general’s office, he admitted. “We will try to resolve these problems and develop our personnel continuously in order to provide high quality services. Fortunately the governor of Phuket used to work in the Land Department, so he understands the procedures and can help co-ordinate all the agencies involved,” he said. Mr Anuwat was speaking of Phuket Governor Wichai Phraisa-ngop, who served as Land Office director in Nakhon Pathom in 1997 and as deputy director of the Land Department nationwide in 2003. ---------------------------------------------------------------

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    Land purchase through Thai spouse forbidden: Land Dept

    By Suttisan, Created on: 28/05/2009, Last updated on: 02/10/2016

    » -- Land purchase through Thai spouse forbidden: Land Dept The director general of the Land Department has reiterated that foreigners using Thai nominees to buy land anywhere in the country will have their land title deeds revoked if caught – even if the nominee in question is a lawfully wedded...

    • troyy commented : In my case I put everything in my Thailand wife's name. That is about the best security there is but you know how security is in Thailand. I just live and accept the fact it is what it is.

    • Jasemin commented : I think this is a fair move by the governing body in question. I've heard and seen too many cases where expats marry local Thais just to derive economical benefits. The real question is, what happens to the said Thai spouse once the transaction is done and dusted? I applaud the local authorities for clamping down on this errant 'unholy matrimony' in preserving the sanctity of marriages and protecting local Thais' well being.

    • yetanother commented : dont understand all this "just rollover logic" like a pet dog; this policy is wrong and it's racist; hmmmm; when is the last time you ever heard a thai say " we aren't racist" o yes...mai pen rai; them to us not us to them

    • Wiewatwaar commented : Even if you are married in Thailand... and you think you share the assets... it's just not true. You will loose your home if you get into a fight divorse later on... Home and ground goes to your Thai ex wife/husband. Foreigners are really badly discriminated in Thailand. It makes no sense. Would be looked at as unlawful in other countries. They spend hard earned money and get risks in return. Thai can protect big real estates projects from going to foreigners (like hotels/resorts) in another way. Nothing to do with pure family usage of home. They should not interfere with totally unfair laws that just hurts a relation and makes things problemetic. >> 6 Real estate ownership by a Thai married to a foreigner Foreigners married to a Thai national can't own land in Thailand and can't have an ownership interest in land as jointly owned marital or matrimonial property between husband and wife. The Land Department does allow a Thai national married to a foreigner to own land as a personal property after a joint statement with the foreign spouse that the money expended on the land is personal property of the Thai spouse. This means that the land (and in practice often land and house and in some cases condominium) is purchased as a personal property of the Thai spouse and therefore will not become a jointly owned and managed property between husband and wife (Sin Somros). The confirmation in the certify letter is based on the principle of section 1472 Civil and Commercial Code that if personal property has been exchanged for other property (in this case land) that property shall be a personal property. The foreign spouse has no ownership rights in such assets based on Thai family laws governing property between husband and wife. The Thai spouse will be the sole owner and manager of the land and as a personal asset it is not part of the division of assets when the marriages ends. <<

    • kraxlhuber commented : purchase through Thai spouse forbidden: Land Dept The director general of the Land Department has reiterated that foreigners using Thai nominees to buy land anywhere in the country will have their land title deeds revoked if caught – even if the nominee in question is a lawfully wedded spouse. Land Department Director Anuwat Meteewiboonwut made the comments during a recent stop in Phuket as part of a nationwide inspection tour of 30 provinces. The tour is aimed at improving public services by land officials in three areas: dress, conduct when dealing with the public and working harder to eliminate a backlog of work. Many members of the public have complained that it takes up to a year to complete a transaction that should only take one day, he said. Mr Anuwat, a former governor of both Phang Nga and Samut Prakan provinces, said he was satisfied on the first two points, but rated the general level of success among land officials nationwide at speeding up their work rate at “only 30%”. The next round of inspection tours will come in July, after which time personnel changes will be considered if service does not improve, he said. “We have to keep pressure on them, otherwise the work will not get done,” he said. As for foreigners seeking to buy homes in Phuket, they can do so through the Condominium Act, which allows foreign ownership of up to 49% of any project, he said. Foreigners cannot use a Thai spouse as a nominee to buy property in Thailand, however. “If the Thai spouse has enough money to buy the house that is fine, but if the Thai has no money and uses money given to him or her by a foreigner to acquire property, that is against the law. If we check and find out later that a Thai person has been using money from a foreigner to buy land anywhere in Thailand, we will revoke title deeds,” he said. Mr Anuwat said the provisions of [Ministry of Interior] ministerial order 43 makes it difficult to issue land documents quickly, as it requires action from a number of different agencies. Desire for land on the island has also led to encroachment problems here, he said. As a key market for property companies, Phuket is a constant source of problems and complaints to the director general’s office, he admitted. “We will try to resolve these problems and develop our personnel continuously in order to provide high quality services. Fortunately the governor of Phuket used to work in the Land Department, so he understands the procedures and can help co-ordinate all the agencies involved,” he said. Mr Anuwat was speaking of Phuket Governor Wichai Phraisa-ngop, who served as Land Office director in Nakhon Pathom in 1997 and as deputy director of the Land Department nationwide in 2003. -- Phuket Gazette 2009-05-27 If this is true it looks like me and my wife will be taking all our money away from Thailand and going back to a less prejudiced society.[/quote:22iqxp5j] What if I give my kids who are half Thai and half European soma land and house in their name, I know they must be at least 21 years old and have THAI CITIZENSHIP only! Hippocrates the lot. I build a wooden Thai House on land belonging to my wife (Thai ) she bought it before we got married. The Land Department in ane case must proof that (in othercases = the Nominee is the the wife) and what if her parents buy land and give it to her, as a dowrey?/

    • Ludwig commented : [quote="Ian":5qvo9om3]Propa, or shall I call you ////\\ goose? Do you prefer to be proper or to goose people? I have always maintained that the only safe approach is to keep the bulk of one's assets outside Thailand, that way if the excrement hits the fan the loss is minor. I have about a 10% investment in Thailand, it will never change unless the visa rules change. [/quote:5qvo9om3] Yes I do the same just invest what you can loose ! Never bring all your money hire and invest , you have money seat up a trust fund for your partner or children or friend In Your home country .

    • Ludwig commented : [quote="AjarnV":398bhfml][quote="Chaem":398bhfml]I am quite new here. To Thailand and this forum. But it seems to me Internationally, Anybody has the legal means can buy land for his/her personal use in any country of the world. (in any democratic country, that is !) My wife, a dental nurse + Thai (!) bought a small plot in Switzerland recently to put up a very small "chalet" next year. Being married for 19 years now we never gave it a thought in who's name this small piece of land should be, we just decided to buy it + ... we did it to spend a few weeks every winter there together. An ex-Prime Minister Mr. Shinawatra (a Thai national) fled the country as a convict and bought a big peace of property in England legally ! I do not understand the logic behind the view of the government in Thail. that not even a man married to a Thai wife can be the owner of a plot of land big enough to house his family. In the end, This piece of earth for a house, does not belong to the government nor any minister nor can it be removed and taken to another country/planet. Any 'owner' can only be owner for a limited time. The actual ground nobody can be his /her for ever + ever. I personally can see no reason why any person can not buy a peace af land for his and his familys need here. [b:398bhfml]In short: if a Thai national can build a house in (let's say) Germany, why can a German not buy a house in Thailand. Can logicially someone explain this to me ?![/quote:398bhfml] [/b:398bhfml] The short answer to your question is, No. [/quote:398bhfml] Germans not Thai go to Canada the land is less and much better you will make money , and you safe . Why invest so where , where you not welcome !

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