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    Dowery

    By Anonymous, Created on: 26/05/2004, Last updated on: 09/03/2007

    » Hello and thanks to all that responded to my last questions. Those of you who have been following my last questions thanks. I am set to marry in Nov or Dec and I talked to her family. My dowery is set at 2 milllion bath and I already gave a 200,000 bath strater to show that I was interested. What...

    • Anonymous commented : to all thai men here, as well as farang wouldbe husbands, I hereby translate a Thai laws about dowry and marriage laws for your discretive understandings. Acts of Civil and Commerce (Pramuan Gotmai Paeng lae Panit revised 2547) Chapter 5 : Family Subchapter 1 : Marriage Clause 1 : Engagement for marriage Article 1435 : 17 years old boy or girl can marry in consent of each parents (in brief). Article 1437 : Sin Sot is the property that man's party endow to the parents of girl's party for purpose to the girl's party acceptance of the marriage. In case any cause occur that the marriage is not taken place due to the mistake on the girl's party, the sin sot can be claimed back by the man's party, comment : in legal marriage in Thailand, the sin sot is due process for formal engagement and marriage. Sin sot delivery must be done openly with witnesses which will nail down the girl's parents, who thesedays some people though, take chance to get their daughter re-married with high paying farang bridegrooms as the present common-law farang or local husbands did dowry in unclear manner such as helping a younger sister to continue college or help the parents build more bedrooms or buy them households TV laundry machine etc. This kind of endowment is not regarded Sin Sot or at least ignored by bad parents as they say "they are gifts or charity to them because the farang men always look down to them as the poor people". Do not avoid Sin Sot giving, give even 5000 baht in presence of village headman and take photo of such evedential material. This will concrete your marriage. Otherwise Thai court always favor Thai people and rule your marriage is MOKA (nullifying marriage). However the best bondage is how strong your bride is bound to you. Girl is girl. If they feel they are loved tightly and securely by you, they do not leave you. They reject their parents and try to raise new family, you and your children. This is the real humane face and what all of us pursue.

    • 61 replies, 27,697 views

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    divorce and marriage law in thailand

    By Anonymous, Created on: 23/04/2005, Last updated on: 12/07/2007

    » can any one advise me the following matter. a friend of mine will be getting married to his thai fiancee in 12 days time in thailand. what i would like to know is if the marriage should sadly break down and then his wife goes back to thailand after say they have lived in england for about 6 months...

    • Anonymous commented : Elle Nov 16th.............I am sure that the main problem with Thai/Western relationships is the utter clash of cultures. What is normal in Thai culture can be the opposite to Western culture and vise versa ! I have a friend who married a Thai lady, when she came to Australia and started work she insisted on sending her money home to family (Thai culture) but he said no! we keep money in joint account (Western Culture) and so they argued until eventually she moved to another bedroom. Both these two peaple needed to understand more about each others culture and try to compromise. But she has now returned to Thailand and the marriage is over.sad really...........I throughly reccomend to all Thai/Western partnerships that they read this book ( which is written ,chapter to chapter in both Thai/English) "THAILAND FEVER" by an American and his Thai wife.Chris Pirazzi and Vitida Vasant................Paiboon Publishing, Bungkum, Bkk. web http://www.thailandfever.com Its a must and will go a long way to help each other understand cultural marriage differences.

    • 66 replies, 27,286 views

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    Buying property in Thailand

    By Anonymous, Created on: 17/02/2006, Last updated on: 11/11/2011

    » Nothing much to say here is there, i think that IAN has told us all there is to know and believe me.......... .he's right.

    • Anonymous commented : also a member. Some Bandidos chapters have been accused of operating a trans-national crime network involved in drugs, extortion, human trafficking, weapons smuggling and money laundering. Pol Gen Sombat said the motorcycle gang extorts money from local businesses on Koh Samui or uses drug revenues to take them over. They have also bribed local officials to issue illegal land ownership documents on public land. Amlo will be asked to take legal measures against those involved in money laundering, said the DSI chief, adding seven cases of land encroachment on Koh Samui were being investigated by his department.

    • 119 replies, 367,763 views

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    Do You Support Your Thai In-Laws?

    By Anonymous, Created on: 02/03/2006, Last updated on: 14/02/2007

    » In Thailand, children take care of their parents. They kind of pay back the debt that they contracted just by being born and educated by their parents. And contrary to "popular" belief, it is valid whether you are rich or poor (but of course far more meaningful if the parents are poor...)....

    • Anonymous commented : i,m sorry vp but your story is quite common here in thailand ,where all us farangs are regarded as an easy mark for a sob story ,just put it down to a chapter in your life that is best forgotten thats all , of course you,ve not a cat in hells chance of getting your bread back so i suppose you,ve got to live with it ,the only crumb of comfort is that there are 1000s in the same boat as you ,regards ,colin .

    • 26 replies, 12,936 views

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    About Face.

    By Sean Moran, Created on: 14/10/2008, Last updated on: 13/04/2014

    » One olde axiom that comes to mind is, '[i:3b539sim]If you can't say something nice, then keep your mouth s.h.u.t.[/i:3b539sim]' Just a thread that pertains to one of the cultural differences one might notice in venturing from a typical 'westernised' society of the assertive kind to the shores of...

    • Sean Moran commented : t remember reading in the few chapters I've read on wool and coats and labour etc. Even to the point of estimating the multiplier of ten times, you guessed it, and seeing it's early in the morning and this is just one post in the thread, I hope I might be allowed to elaborate on what happened when I paid for my first meal in Thailand with a 1,000 baht note under the mistaken belief that it was a 100 baht note. The corner had folded over to cover the trailing zero and I didn't recognise the different markings. So, I'd arrived in Thailand the previous afternoon and been picked up at the airport by my friend and in some ways, 'sponsor', and driven from Don Muang to Rayong for the first night. Chalore and her husband took me to dinner in Ban Phe on the first night and let me stay in her brother's villa as he was away in Bangkok at the time. The next morning, my first ever in Thailand, she drove me up to Nikhom Pattana to show me around the markets, took me to breakfast, to the news-stand where she bought me the Bangkok Post and the Student Weekly. "This is what I tell the student to read." she said. We then found the apartment block in Mabkha where I was to spend the next few months, and she did the talking for me to help me move in at the monthly rate, which she paid for me herself incidently for that first month. I was then left to settle into the new room, (to put it mildly). I hadn't yet spent a single baht on anything. My wallet was full of new currency but I hadn't had time to sit down and work out what the different denominations looked like in a hurry. I'd learned that day from Chalore while we were up at the Pluak Daeng Dam sightseeing how to say [i:1449ci80]thank you[/i:1449ci80] in pasa Thai and apart from [i:1449ci80]hello[/i:1449ci80] that was all the language I spoke. I did take a walk up the road to the mini-mart to buy a mop and a broom and some detergent and stuff like that. I had the crazy idea that if I polished the floors, the rat-nest fragrance in the room might dissipate. So dinner time came. The buses stop running at around 18:00 in Mabkha. No taxis. Where the dickens am I gonna get some tucker on foot? Potato chips from the mini mart perhaps? It turned out that there were plenty of raan ahaans right near the apartments, and Mrs Pueng had the kitchen running for dining in the restaurant at the apartments or else room service if required. I wasn't aware of these options back then. I walked by a few eateries thinking that they were private homes until I'd ventured about half a mile up the road. That's when I came across the Silver Star, (the restaurant in the photo above). Anuchit and his 'sister' (chef and boss), really rolled out the red carpet for the wayward farang that night. I couldn't even remember how to say [i:1449ci80]khao phad[/i:1449ci80], but he spoke just enough English to make me feel that I was in the right place for a feed, and there I was at the special table with DEEP-FRIED CHICKEN! Heaps and heaps of fried chicken with some kind of chilly sauce and some other foods I can't remember after so long. Wow! What gives? I sensed this "special treatment" as something I wasn't really keen on, but we all played along with it for the night. I drank too much bia Chang from having so much fun. When it came time for the check-bin, I wasn't sure what to do, but I was the only customer in the restaurant that night, apart from a few blokes that I later got to meet - mates of Anuchit just dropped by to watch television. The total came to 115 baht, but I had to offer a tip, of course. It was such a rare treat to get the movie-star service so unexpectedly. So that's when I determined that 150 baht would pay for the meal and the beer, and include a reasonable tip without "mystifying the indigenous". So I paid the two banknotes, said thanks in my new language that I'd just learned that morning, and headed home, stopping on the way at the minimart for some supplies to go with the HBO and the next morning. It was only then when I went to pay for the ciggies and iced tea that I realised that I'd accidentally used the only 1,000 baht note I had to pay the check-bin, and I didn't have enough cash to cover the minimart bill. So I was rather confused. I still didn't know the words for "sorry" but I tried to look surprised and by gesture explain to the shop attendant that I had made a monetary mistake. If it wasn't for the embarrassment, it was probably quite an hilarious event. I went back up the road to the Silver Star where they were closing up. I should mention that these mates of Anuchit's were BIG blokes. I wasn't all that keen on the idea of getting assertive about MY mistake. I was actually a little wary of having even walked back in, not having any idea of how people in Thailand react to situations like this. Anuchit saw me walk in and knew innediately why I'd come back. The other three just sat there staring at me trying not to burst out laughing. No problem. 900 baht in 100s handed straight back to me. Some months later, Anuchit did mention that at the time, he thought I was offering a very big tip for the good service, although considering the additional 50 baht note on top of the 1,000, I reckon he was just trying to politely explain how a farang and his money soon go separate ways, and more fool me if I'd walked off and not realised my own stupidity. That old saying, don't look a gift horse in the mouth probably applies fairly well. If someone had paid me 10 times what I asked and then walked off, I can't be sure whether I'd run after them to tell them, although with shops and places and people I know, I try to make a point of returning any overpayment of change in a transaction. It happens once or twice over a year. What I see as having begun the friendship back on that night, was the honest way he went about sorting things out with no denial or any kind of attempt to dissuade me from asking for the change for the accidental 1,000 baht note that had the corner folded over so the numbers read 1,00 and I didn't know any better. These were big blokes. If he'd just told me to get out and go home, I know that that is exactly what I would have done. One might say I was still mystified by the indigenous back then. I hope that this long-winded saga isn't getting too off-topic. I rekcon it relates to the thread reasonably well, but I'll refrain from adding anymore photos if that's okay. I have plenty but I don't think anyone really needs to see them.

    • 61 replies, 76,687 views

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    Writer jailed for 'insulting' Thai royals

    By Voice, Created on: 19/01/2009, Last updated on: 17/06/2009

    » Writer jailed for 'insulting' Thai royals Australian writer Harry Nicolaides is jailed for three years after being found guilty of insulting the Thai monarchy in his novel. Today news from the BBC, after heard the news I thought that maybe it time that maybe we should all discussing this kind of...

    • pachangamac042 commented : tries in the world have black chapters in their histories, chapters they would love to forget about, but will always be a part of their history. In my life, I talked to many, many Thais with different university degrees. They all now about the good things witch happened in this part of the world, but have no idea about other history witch was not so glorious for Thailand. There are chapters in Thai history, witch are not being teached in Thailand. You are not even allowed to talk about them without risking some time in jail in Thailand. But it is still part of the Thai history, and just forgetting about it does not make it unhappen. Talking and teaching openly about such black chapters in history is real education and could avoid such chapters to be repeated again.

    • Sean Moran commented : [quote="stilljustbrowsing":3a0uvbff]So now we end up with with "yule-tide" festivals! Sink it in deep water! (no evidence, no "story") J1V I have a Temptation to answer your comment, but then again, why should I "SAY IT AGAIN!" One should not "cry out loud" if it is desired that something remains quiet! [/quote:3a0uvbff] [color=#906030:3a0uvbff][size=150:3a0uvbff][b:3a0uvbff]Wise men say nothing in dangerous times.[/b:3a0uvbff][/size:3a0uvbff] [b:3a0uvbff]- SIR DICK WHITE, FORMER DIRECTOR GENERAL MI5 AND MI6, TO THE AUTHOR, LONDON, 1962[/b:3a0uvbff][/color:3a0uvbff] [b:3a0uvbff]Mother, Son and Holy Ghost[/b:3a0uvbff], [i:3a0uvbff]Reg Gadney[/i:3a0uvbff], Chapter 18, p.173, 1986.

    • Voice commented : Hi Just, what would happen is that another chapter of our history would have been washed down by Persil lol Nothing is whiter than white if you use Persil lol

    • 312 replies, 1,158,552 views

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    Land purchase through Thai spouse forbidden: Land Dept

    By Suttisan, Created on: 28/05/2009, Last updated on: 02/10/2016

    » -- Land purchase through Thai spouse forbidden: Land Dept The director general of the Land Department has reiterated that foreigners using Thai nominees to buy land anywhere in the country will have their land title deeds revoked if caught – even if the nominee in question is a lawfully wedded...

    • Krumm commented : Several posters have suggested that land could be confiscated, if acquired through nominees, whether lawfully married Thai wives or others and Anuwat, himself, said title deeds would be revoked. The procedure under the Land Code is actually as follows: [i:3f04qsjo][b:3f04qsjo]Section 94[/b:3f04qsjo]. All the land which as alien has acquired unlawfully or without permission shall be disposed of by such alien within the time limit prescribed by the Director-General which shall not be less than one hundred eighty days nor more than one year. If the land is not disposed of within the time prescribed the Director-General shall have the power to dispose of it. The provisions on the forced sale of land in CHAPTER 3 shall apply mutatis mutandis. [/i:3f04qsjo] However, criminal penalties also apply to the foreign owner and the Thai nominee. Other posters suggested that having their wife leave the landed property to them in her will will enable them to inherit the property and sell it within 12 months, in the event that she predeceased him. This is true to a certain extent but must be legally married to have a prior claim over relatives. Even then, as in the French laws that Thailand borrowed its Civil and Commercial Code from, it is not possible to cut close blood relatives out of a will completely. Living children, parents and siblings would still be entitled to a share, whatever it says in the will.

    • 186 replies, 1,555,754 views

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    America bashing at Esplanade Mall

    By gohmer, Created on: 09/05/2010, Last updated on: 11/06/2011

    » I putting this post up because it is related to international relationships with American citizens living and visiting Thailand. It illustrated to me that little is known about America by most people in Thailand, in fact, I think that few in the world truly understand what America is about and how...

    • Na Fianna commented : Go to the end. Flick back 5 chapters. This is the point where our histories diverge. Edit to say: I'm European [quote:2wxh31xo]I could go on a long rant about how many times America has aided Thailand over the past 70+ years[/quote:2wxh31xo] Don't forget Thailands neighbours too!!! [quote:2wxh31xo]So, as my right to exercise free speech, I am going to ask all Americans, and Europeans (if you think it would be offensive if they had your country's flag on the hand)[/quote:2wxh31xo] Slightly. But then the rest of us Europeans and Americans realise that our shit stinks too and we dont get up in arms over a T-Shirt. I

    • 119 replies, 154,424 views

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