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    enry into the u.k. for thai girlfriends/partners

    By Anonymous, Created on: 02/01/2005, Last updated on: 07/06/2006

    » I started out trying to help my Thai employee (with a British passport) to bring her twenty two year old daughter to the U.K. for a family visit. Thought it would be a breeze. Mother rents a single room so I offered my family home for daughter to stay in during visit. I've heard stories about the...

    • Anonymous commented : I have read a fair bit on this forum & am concerned.. My Thai fiancee(36) has her 'fiancee visa' interview in a couple of weeks & i will be flying out to be with her. She does not earn much, but i do have sufficient funds to support her if she were to get to the UK. If she 'WERE' to get a visa, then i will bring her back with me to the UK. From what i have read, i am not holding up much hope. But there are a couple of questions i have before going out to Thailand. 1) Is there any other information, other than everything that was requested, that it is worth me taking out. I supplied all Photo's & SMS's & any evidence i had, to the date of the application & I will be taking all evidence i have & updated evidence with me. 2) With regard to the corruption within the embassy, has anyone had experience of this & if so what sort of amounts have people paid. Do the embassy people ask you, or do you have to offer it to them? I need to prepare for this in case this comes up. Thanks in advance for any responses. Cliff PS: feel free to email direct if sensitive info is not wanted to be made public.

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    thai divorce and property law

    By Anonymous, Created on: 21/02/2005, Last updated on: 16/01/2006

    » I'm a U.S. citizen and married to a thai guy in U.S., he has nothing in U.S. but business ownership, land and bank accounts in thailand. our baby is going to be U.S. citizen, i want to know, is it true by law that he told me that i cannot co-own any business, land or bank account of his? what can...

    • Anonymous commented : Correction. Son originally agreed to give new Thai bride $250 a month (not 250 bahts) from MT until processed her K-3. He also sent twice that originally for a period of time to help her pay off her previous debts. Then he insisted that they go back to their original agreement--$250 only--except for emergencies and gifts. She had gotten used to the higher amount and hit the roof and refuse to maintain the budget by spending all the $250 from the account he set up for her as soon as it arrived--the first week of the month and then cajoling constantly for more.. When he refused to send more--as he had warned her he must save for visa, marriage and take care of his new business--She claimed he was starving her and not meeting his obligations. She didn't seem to ever believe him when he would tell her by phone and by email NO NO NO to outspending the $250 each month. She never sent any sad ,separated sweetheart kinds of emails, once he forced her to stay within budget (she receives 8000 bahts a month from her sister for caring for the sister's 8 year old spoiled son---even bathing him, dressing him, powdering his bottom, and catering to his every whim) In the spring, she only wrote about her husband's being "selfish---all my Thai friends agree---you're selfish---just like Thai men are." (???) "Why did you sign marriage registration if you weren't going to support me?!! Why you lie? How can I trust you?" She also got him to provide for English lessons, and claimed to be the best student in her class, but then dropped the classes this spring, around the time he started "starving" her. This girl has a car, lives in a new high standard house which the three sisters just bought for their parents---to get them out of police housing. They also have a country house, with rice, pond, etc. The father isn't retired, still working but spends most of his time with his girlfriend and refuses to pay mortgage for the house, so daughters are each to pay a third...so new bride keeps asking my son to send money for mortgage ASAP.... 1) Could they annul and then apply for a K-1 visa with any chance of success? 2) In an uncontested divorce, in a marriage of 8 months, in which the couple has never lived together since registration, could the "husband" sign papers in US and get a proxy to present them at the amphur? 3) If they married in Bangkok, shouldn't they divorce there instead of in Khon Kaen which she insists? 4) Although non-contested, can the Amphur then assess a lot of trumped up fines on my son, and refuse to let him leave the country until they were paid? (She might have run up credit card debts or whatever in the nine months since he's seen her...) 5) Could he divorce her from the US, according to Thai laws, and send the papers over? We believe that last spring, she might have reunited with an old Thai boyfriend; or that her sister is lining up one of her husband's older friends to marry her next...they seem awfully anxious to end it....but my son says he would be a sitting duck for the cops or old boyfriends or whomever---leaving her with all his worldly assets, or at least half...(Somehow his bank knew of his recent foreign marriage, although he has never informed them? Weird...she has US in-laws with former CIA connections...it feels claustrophia and maybe we're paranoid...but reading the UN Report about Human Rights Violations during the Crackdown...and the disappearance of farangs, and the recognition that the police system is questionable and prisons unassailable...going back isn't an option, but the need to end this travesty is weighing on all of us...as we vasilate like the ones who write to Stickman...She's innocent/she's not; she's cohersed/she instigating; she's Cinderella/she's Cruella de Ville; she has a Thai boyfriend/she doesn't/she is lining up a richer farang/she's heartbroken; he could go safely and quickly for a co-signing/he will get hit with lawsuits and not be able to leave the country; he would be safe in Bangkok/he would be set upon by a gang paid to avenge Thai girl's loss of face---farang thinks $250 enough for ME while he saves for wedding!!! Then one day he noticed while she was suppose to be at home--as she stated in her email--visiting with friends next door in Khon Kaen--documents from the account he set up for her had a withdrawal from Bangkok. When he asked her about this she said it was a mistake. She claimed she hadn't returned to Bangkok since their wedding, the day he flew back to Montana. He went to great effort to have the bank double-check where the withdrawal occurred. She claimed it was the Malikan branch on Bangkok Road in Khon Kaen. So--he sent her $85 and told her to please use that same branch bank for the withdrawal...she has refused and asked that he drop the subject as it is boring her, and she dislikes him accusing her as she is innocent. Ever since her weird behavior this spring, my son and I have been combing the internet to try and understand Thai culture, divorce and marriage laws, bar girls and found this forum. She has belatedly agreed to co-signing an annulment, and wants him to apply for the K-1 afterwards. However, when he asks that she and her mother or whomever, and nephew meet him in Bangkok where they married for annulment, with him paying all expenses, hotel, plane, etc. She refuses and says they must meet in Khon Kaen. My son worries that it wouldn't be safe to return to Khon Kaen. Although agreeing to co-signment of a non-contested divorce, she seems to be talleying up "her" expenses---could they hit him with a big bill for costing her "face" or whatever...and refuse to let him leave the country w/o his first paying? With a police chief father, who seems to really enjoy finding drug cars, which the police can then keep for themselves, and an uncle who is a lawyer---and the kind of records she seems to be keeping---it seems highly unlikely that my son can sail in, sign, and sail out. Would a proxy be allowed? The girl, herself, seems to rather naive, she has been caring for her sister's (who married a farang GI) child since the boy was 2 years old---the child is constantly being refused immigration by Thai authorities. The family seems to have an agenda of their own and she is just a pawn in the game...or so it seemed, until last spring when she seemed to change character from a loving bride and began ranting for more and more money. (We chalked it up to some translator writing the letters...perhaps even her sister who is now rich via marrying a farang who later became successful businessman. NO to spending outside the budget, but she just went ahead. Then threatened to become a bar-girl if he didn't send between 450 and 500 dollars a month. Later, she said this wasn't a serious threat, only a "test" of him. Originally the future wedding ceremony in Khon Kaen was agreed by the family to be: $1000 bride price, a modest ceremony which could be up to a $1000, and a diamond ring. Then this spring, arguing for $400 or $500 a month--which was never agreed upon priorly although she claims so--she also demands now for the wedding: 150,000 bahts for mother; 150,000 bahts for reception which the Mom will cater ; and 150,000 bahts for show at wedding--with an unspecified amount returned later. One one-carat diamond ring. She now claims if these demands aren't meant her parents will refuse to let her come to America. Also, recently she has said if $250 monthly isn't sent to mother then she won't be "allowed" to go. Once in America, she claims she will try to pay half of Mom's costs. My son thought maybe they could get non-contested annulment and then apply for a K-1 visa for her---as it seems risky to bring her to America as a wife---while he would be protected if she were only a fiancee. If they were simpatico here, they could marry in the US, and then return for the Thai ceremony in a year (and he could get a pre-nup before he marries her here.) Would this work?

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    Getting married to thai girl and getting Visa for Australia

    By Anonymous, Created on: 16/07/2006, Last updated on: 13/08/2007

    » On August the 28th i will Marry my Beautiful Thai girl friend i hope that we will be able to obtain a partner visa by Xmas so that herand her daughter will be here in Australia for the new year any advice on how to obtain Visa and how to have our mariage legally reconised will be much apreciated

    • Anonymous commented : Thank you Kate B Firstly no need to be sorry for the long post, 1. It was informative 2. Lots of people will get to read this and the more we share information the better 3. It was written well I feel you gave good information as how to obtain a Visa in Australia. You gave good examples of the pro's and con's. My experiences so far are : - As to how long it will take to get a Spouse Visa, (from Australian Thai embassy in Bangkok) it can be as little as 2 weeks, I know a couple who had this happen for them. As he told me and as we are doing, ‘YOU HAVE TO GET IT RIGHT’. What I mean is read as much as you can on web forums, read all the information that they post on the embassy web sites and IMMI websites. When they say this list, referring to their checklist, is not exhaustive, believe them. Personally I think they should write it ‘IS NOT EXHAUSTIVE’. Tell them if you sneezed and your wife said bless you LOL. On a serious level send them as much as you can. Birthday cards letters from your friends and family, even if they only mention your partner in a small way (highlight it). To answer your questions regarding the Australian embassy in Bangkok, my experiences of contacting them have always been difficult. If I call them you have to go through an answering service, which is very slow and often does not work. It is not explained well. It does not have a help option (directed to operator if you do not understand). Why should they provide an operator when they have a monopoly on visa applications? As to going in person I am sure prisoners of war were treated with better respect when trying to get to speak to the commandant. Security is that high at the Oz embbassy in Thailand. There is the main gate staffed by what appears to be Thai nationals. They are not cold but very emotionless (in my experience of management this is always passed down to the operators, Thai people are know for their friendliness). When you get to the second gate you meet the gate NATZI (Sorry I must apologize here 1 of the 3 people I met here was human and actually went out of her way to help me). This is typical of my experiences with the Embassy, It is the luck of the draw on the day if you get a helpful person or not. The first time I went to see these people, who I pay for as a taxpayer, I got some help. That was when they decided it was right for them to show up at the window. By the time they had arrived I had found information sheets that told me different things to what I had learnt doing research on the Internet. I filled out their form saying that I was single, after having to go back outside gate 2 and get my phone to call my then fiancée to get the extra information they required. I then got told that they could not verifier that a certified copy of my divorce certificate, made in their country was correct. They did not want to help in any way, they told me that it may not be accepted by some district offices because it was a copy and not certified in Thailand. I left there thinking that I may have to return to Australia and come back again with the genuine divorce certificate. With very little help from the OZ embassy I managed to get married In Thailand. I am now in the final stages of putting together with my lovely darling wife our application for spouse Visa. It is harder than what most people would expect, if you want to do it right that is. Thank you Kate for your help, you seem to be a person like Nina and I that cares and wants to help other people. My focus now is on getting my wife here to Australia. Once that is done I will post Outcome 2 so other people can learn by our experiences. In the future I would like to be able to set up a website to help people like ourselves. As you said creating a list of translators would be one of many things we could do. If you would be interested in helping out with this please email me and we could work something out. Thanks Gary

    • 23 replies, 15,284 views

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    Divorcing a Thai Lady. Marriage registered in the UK

    By Anonymous, Created on: 26/03/2007, Last updated on: 10/12/2007

    » Married my Thai wife in Scotland. We were working in a Hotel in England We married St Patrick's Day (17th March 06) She left me April Fool's Day ( 1st April 06) She returned to Thailand and I had not seen her till a couple of weeks ago. We both want to divorce. I would like to know...

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    Advice Needed About Father's Imminent Marriage

    By Anonymous, Created on: 11/08/2007, Last updated on: 01/12/2007

    » I wonder if anyone can offer me any urgently needed advice. My father is about to marry a Thai woman 40 years his junior. (He has been alone and divorced for over twenty years.) Whilst he is an intelligent man professionally, when it comes to 'matters of the heart' he is totally blinkered...

    • Anonymous commented : RJ, well said. I am sure that she would be unhappy living in the UK. She will miss her culture, and the better climate. Living in uk seems a constant 'thirst' for a little sunshine, the longing to get the sun on your skin, instead of the seemingly endless dark cloudy skies. Its no wonder that the population go 'berserk' for a couple of weeks in the summer. I always feel a little depressed after a while when i visit England and just cannot wait for that flight back to Los and Australia. I left UK in 1956 and you could'nt pay me to ever live there again. I was born there, how do you think she will feel.

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    Living in an Isarn Village

    By Anonymous, Created on: 01/01/2008, Last updated on: 17/04/2010

    » I have been several times visiting my girlfriend’s village in Isarn, near Mukdahan. First time I was there I felt in love with the place and immediately wanted to build a house and spend part of my time living there. The place appeared to me so nice and authentic, the rice fields, the vegetation,...

    • Ryan - M commented : Hi Juan, I totally understand how you feel. I have been in an Isaan village for the last six weeks staying with my wife's family and, although there are some great things to see and do here, it occassionaly gets mind-numbingly boring. I play guitar and write music so I did a lot of composing in the first weeks but then i felt like i was being too selfish as everyone else did house work and stuff. Aslo because its Song Kran I had a couple of really good days dancing and drinking and getting soaking wet. I've had to tell myself and my wife that I don't want to live here forever. My wife tends to just just agree with me but I feel in the long run she will want to be here as she feels totally in her element here. I worry that the village life may become a breaking point in our marriage if we can't agree on it, still, thats the future, don't worry about it now. I'm also near Mukdahan which seems like a big city after beig in the village! Ryan

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    Why do most farangs search for their wife from Pattaya?

    By Anonymous, Created on: 20/01/2008, Last updated on: 14/03/2010

    » I wonder so much as I follow this web for a few days. and I notice mostly they post about how bad of thai woman. I understand as when they scam by thai woman. but no body force them to that situations( i MEAN pattaya , bars or other place as similar as pattaya ) and found love there and got bad...

    • silverfox commented : I was introduced to my girlfriend 2 trips ago, she is the step sister of my best friends wife, we met at a family social event, we chatted a little as my Thai is not very good yet (I do try to learn on every visit) and her English was not very good either, when i returned in May she asked if we could see each other and we did. No hanky panky went on,we slept in the same bed but I was a good boy and behaved myself,you have no idea how much willpower that took But we chatted more and helped each other with our respective languages. Before I came home I was asked by her mama what I thought of her daughter and I told her that obviously I liked her very much. I was sort of told that to maintain the relationship while back in the UK that some sort of token of my feelings for the lady would help dissuade others from approaching her in my absence so she got a nice gold chain, which my friend tells me she wears everyday with immense pride I hope I hav'nt been mugged I was the first man to buy her a bunch of flowers, I was the first man to buy her presents, to pay for to have new clothes her hair done and many other things, to see her happy with these small gestures of my heart makes me so happy to. We talk a couple of times a week and I send her a little money every month to help her and her mama, she has spent most of what I have sent her on private English lessons, 40 hours in total and now I can't stop her talking !!!!!!! She text's me almost every day with little "Love Quotes" and is a real diamond. I will next see her in October for a month, and after that probably not again untill next April/May, I am in no rush to marry this girl, I want to make sure we are going to be right for each other and that we understand what we both want and need from the relationship, I hope to be able to retire middle to late of next year so our seperation will not be forever if God/Buddha allows it. Sorry for my ramble but that is my story up to now, I thank you for you time.

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    Why do ONLY foreigners get special promotion?

    By Anonymous, Created on: 28/01/2008, Last updated on: 05/02/2014

    » The advertising board on the way to Airport is shown "Foreigner Zone.. Buying house (somewhere around Bangkok..) Foreigner, with Special Price!!" I know the property company may want to attract foreigners to invest in property in Thailand. But, what about Thais who also want to own the...

    • fast eddy commented : Wow! What a great topic Yes VP welcome to Thailand - the land of 'special everything for non-thais'. The special price for the houses in a 'forgein zone will be hugely inflated as is the price for entering the Chiang Mai Safari Park, National Parks and Temples when charging a non-Thai! I too met the special price for foreigners a couple of weeks ago. I was informed that the electric sign I errected would incurr tax as would a sign in Thai. However, my sign would be taxed at four times the rate of a Thai sign as it is written in English! The trick to do is to involve yourself in transactions as a seller rather than always the victim (buyer). That way you can pass on the special prices you pay to your Thai customers. Make Budhism work for you - they say its a circle so just keep passing the special prices back to the natives when you can - rule no.1 'there is always a victim. Rule no. 2 'don't be it!' The next thing to do is to shop around! Best to use a Thai friend to help you to 'negotiate' the price. When this is settled then you step in and pay-up - just enjoy the 'great wailing and nashing of teeth' when the vendor realises they missed out on yet another 'special price'! Having said all of that, there are areas of Thailand where they don't price discriminate and treat non-thais as the would thais. Try to settle in one of these places rather than the big cities where you will probably spend most of your times as a 'special price' victim. Finally, to 'watcher'. You can't be serious! Japan is an extremely rascist country I lived there full time for five years and my brother over 20 years and friends are getting up to their quarter century of living there full time! The word you need to use is xenophopic with a capital X! You must have seen the big black buses crawling around the center of Tokyo! These huge buses are draped in the rising sun flag with blacked out windows and manned by extreme right wing Japs dressed in black - belowing through loud speakers that all Japan's woes are caused by foreigners and that they should all be kicked out! Somebody pointed out that Thailand is not really a budhist country and is basically animist with a smatering of hindu. I would agree with this - you only have to look at the rush to buy into the special medalions produced in Nakon Sii Thammarat last year to understand how supersticious the Thais are. They even get their lottery numbers from looking at trees and (get this) pigs! I have no problem with this whatsoever as the cub Kao lady (the mobile shop) in my village in Nonthaburi won the lottery twice by such non-scientific methods. What was annoying was that she bought a ticket numbered the same as my wife's motorbike registration (which she had seen in her dream the night before) and won. Not only that but a few months later she saw the registration of my pick-up truck in a dream and won again!! Thais do sometimes suffer from the 'special prices' though. An example that springs to mind is the special prices promted by some five star hotels and resorts which have deals for tourists but not for the natives. I have read of this a number of times over the years but having said that they get their own back by charging higher prices at other resorts for tourists when compared to natives - see! You've got to get yourself into the trading chain somehow or you will forever end up the victim For as a Jewish friend of mine once said, 'Why did God invent Gentiles? Someone has to pay retail!!' cheers Fast Eddy

    • triptrip commented : [quote:1ze4a2f9]I too met the special price for foreigners a couple of weeks ago. I was informed that the electric sign I errected would incurr tax as would a sign in Thai. However, my sign would be taxed at four times the rate of a Thai sign as it is written in English! [/quote:1ze4a2f9] Signage Tax is a type of tax codified in the Revenue Code. The way it's taxed is based on the size of the sign. For signage with only romanised character, the tax rate is higher, whilst a sign with only Thai characters will be taxed at a cheaper rate. In the case where both romanised and Thai characters are included in the sign, the tax rate is half of what the full romanised only tax rate is. Next time you look at any sign in Thailand, you will notice that on the top right hand corner, they will include a small Thai character of the product/company name. This way, they will reduce the signage tax by half.

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    please advise

    By Anonymous, Created on: 11/03/2008, Last updated on: 22/10/2008

    » Please advise. Met a thai women in August of 2007. Stayed with her for 1 month. Went back at Christmas and stayed with her for 10 days. I have a lot of western friends that live in Thailand and have visted twice before meeting her. Met her in a go-go bar(which she quit on the day that I met her...and...

    • Burn commented : All I need to hear is "sending money" and "getting married" after having known someone for ... a couple of weeks. Are you blind? o_O Why are you in such a hurry?

    • 9 replies, 14,439 views

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