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    Thai business stories

    Choosing cheap Chinese Products over Thai jobs

    By needchange, Created on: 17/10/2010, Last updated on: 24/11/2015

    » Everyone knows the story of what has been happening in the US in terms of the trade deficit with China. If you go to Walmart, almost every product sold there comes from China. Walmart is America's biggest retailer if I'm correct. The trend is the same at many other retailers around the country. So...

    • triptrip commented : [quote="prajna":1jqeqgs6]Unfortunately, Chinese-made merchandize is a synonym of products that are known for being shoddy, unsafe, toxic, prone to recalls, dangerous, faulty, tainted and poorly designed. .[/quote:1jqeqgs6] Not exactly true. The computer and keyboard you are using to type your comments are most likely Chinese made. It may be designed and developed in the US or somewhere but definately assembled in China. iphone, blackberry and what not top notch gadgetry we're using are all Chinese made. The Chinese certainly can have top quality stuffs if they want it. Look at the opening/closing ceremony of Olympics 2008.

    • 48 replies, 211,938 views

    Domestic / cross cultural issues - Thai / Foreigner concerns

    America bashing at Esplanade Mall

    By gohmer, Created on: 09/05/2010, Last updated on: 11/06/2011

    » I putting this post up because it is related to international relationships with American citizens living and visiting Thailand. It illustrated to me that little is known about America by most people in Thailand, in fact, I think that few in the world truly understand what America is about and how...

    • triptrip commented : In sum, the OP should purchase the T-Shirt and proceed to rip it into pieces in front of the jaw gaping salesperson to show his disgust. I'm sure this will go down well with the Thais as always love something out of the ordinary and the OP can enjoy his 15 mins rather than getting stick from an online forum.

    • 119 replies, 154,424 views

    Domestic / cross cultural issues - Thai / Foreigner concerns

    foreigners have got no rights?

    By majoy, Created on: 24/03/2010, Last updated on: 12/04/2010

    » We moved to this new house six months ago and everything is fine except for the noisy dogs next door. I spoke to the owner and asked if they could make their dogs quiet and she said it's not their dogs fault but the dog opposite who always stand outside their gate and make their dogs ridiculous!...

    • triptrip commented : Got a Thai neighour who bought a 7 Million Baht home just to house his cats. 3 of them. The owner stays with his parents in another moo baan and left the cats free to roam opposite my house. Only visiting in the evening for feeding. The cats naturally came over to my place and those of my neighbours to piss, crap and dig on the soil. One of the neighbour got his koi fish clawed by the cat. The neighbours are all Thais. After the initial anger, everytime I find cat shit in my home, I will collect it and throw it over the fence at his place. Sometimes the look on his face is priceless as he found his doorsteps, car park, garden full of cat shit when he come over to feed the cats. In time, I talked with other neighbours and we collectively throw cat shits at his place. He got the message after a while and took the cats away. In true Thai spirit, everytime I see him, I act as if nothing happened and wear a big smile on my face.

    • triptrip commented : [quote="david":2xsmmf3z] Totally disagree with the generalizing closing statements. It’s my belief that the majority of Thais wouldn’t resort to that solution. You’ll really be asking for trouble if you told the neighbour what you suggest. That’s dangerous, presumptuous thinking! You’ll have the neighbourhood turning against you. Potentially more serious trouble.[/quote:2xsmmf3z] In true Thai spirit, after killing the dog, everyone will act as if nothing happened and wear a big smile on their face. The owner will know the truth as the mae baan and ror por por will gossip about who killed the dog.

    • 47 replies, 107,464 views

    Domestic / cross cultural issues - Thai / Foreigner concerns

    Home Sweet Home - Thailand vs Malaysia?

    By GerBo, Created on: 08/08/2009, Last updated on: 28/04/2010

    » I live now exactly 2 years in Thailand with my Thai spouse and see the following things in this 'Land of Smile' to foreigners. I see it sometimes more as discrimination of foreigners in this country. 1. VISA-paper work to overreacting and very unfriendly; 2. Very tough to open a initial savingsaccount...

    • triptrip commented : [quote="GerBo":1mdxrq1s]I live now exactly 2 years in Thailand with my Thai spouse and see the following things in this 'Land of Smile' to foreigners. I see it sometimes more as discrimination of foreigners in this country. 1. VISA-paper work to overreacting and very unfriendly; 2. Very tough to open a initial savingsaccount without a sudden visa; 3. Some banks do not give interest on a savingsaccount for foreigners; 4. Can not buy a house incl. land; 5. Can not have on a normal easy way a house-registration; 6. Can not buy a car/motorbike without a normal house-registration or Certificate of Residence; 7. Block ur savingsaccount when a sum of equivelent 10.000 EUR is getting on ur account from abroad; When u see te aboved point (and for sure I missed some) I think this Land of Smile is really a kind of paranoid. There is only one thing u may do in this country and makes them really having a smile: ACCEPTING UR FOREIGN MONEY!! No restrictions at all. huh? how can? Then I look to a more civilized country nearby, Malaysia. I lived there for more then 4 years. 1. VISA normal and after a few years permanent resident; 2. Open with my passport a savingsaccount at MayBank incl. ATM card and CREDITCARD; 3. Get just like Malaysians a normal interest rate; 4. Just bought my beautiful house incl. huge land on a nice secured park ON MY NAME; 5. Have ofcourse my own house-registration; 6. Can buy a car/motorbike on my name; 7. Do not block any ringgit on my account; 8. A terrific schoolsystem cuz they all SPEAK ENGLISH!! Not only good for foreign visitors, but also for themself in 2009. Well readers... paranoid or not here? They are here so afraid that foreigners will invade Thailand, well as stated in a other forum I published last time a European investigation which shows that from the 60 mln people in Europe who participate this investigation, less then 3% would CONSIDER to move to Thailand. So we all know that it's a bit overreacting of Thailand to think it's a place where foreign people really wanna live. For us it's already settled, so no big deal... after retirement of my Thai spouse in a few years we will say goodbye to this country and life further in Malaysia, same nice temperature, rich in culture, who at least treat every individual how it should be in this world. Besides, we all live temporary on this world to share and live with each other to give the land further to the generation after us, but not like here, where foreign people get treated like they are a kind of plaque for this country. Very pity, but it's the real fact![/quote:1mdxrq1s] not bad, took you 2 years to realise it. Don't be like our friend who after 16 years living in thailand only to grumble about the word "farang". All the best to your escapade to the most racist country in SEA, Malaysia truly Asia.

    • triptrip commented : ... sec=nation nuff said.

    • triptrip commented : [quote="Michael Bukit":1il4pesb]There are said estimated about a million illegal immigrates from Indonesians, Burmeses & Bangladeshis in Malaysia.[/quote:1il4pesb] The thing that takes the piss is that middle class Indonesians can come over, apply for a PR, and then get bumi status, which pisses the local chinese and indians even more, for they are forever treated as second class citizen but are now relegated to 3rd class after the buminized newly arrived indonesians!!! Damn....the country is screwed up[i:1il4pesb] (edited)[/i:1il4pesb] big time.

    • 13 replies, 26,852 views

    Domestic / cross cultural issues - Thai / Foreigner concerns

    Having a baby in Thailand and hospitals

    By ohm, Created on: 06/06/2009, Last updated on: 08/06/2009

    » Some of the private hospitals in Bangkok might be a good choice depending on what it is that one is seeking advice/treatment on. My wife and I are expecting twins. When we shopped around for hospitals, we looked at several. One being XXXXXX* Hospital, a private hospital. We were told by the...

    • triptrip commented : hi congrats. we just delivered our baby girl at Sxxxxxxxx Sukhumvit Hosp. The package for C-Sec is THB 55K. of course you need to plus other things like nursery, etc and the total costs for 4 days 3 nights was slightly less than THB 80K. maybe twins are more expensive but do check around. cheers and have fun!!!

    • 4 replies, 5,326 views

    Domestic / cross cultural issues - Thai / Foreigner concerns

    Foreigner buying lands through a Thai company

    By charlie, Created on: 07/06/2009, Last updated on: 25/06/2009

    » [b:1ek82v4c]FACTS:[/b:1ek82v4c] Most foreigners legally married or not with Thai spouses, are buying small or large pieces of land in Thailand (Pattaya, Phuket, Koh Samui) by setting up Thai companies and are buying 2-3 rais of land in order to built several houses for rent or sale in order to have...

    • triptrip commented : [quote:2qjxjou3]by Li yui on Sun Jun 07, 2009 8:24 pm [58.37.3.xx] Blueskye What is Thailand exactly today, an up-coming military dictatorship like Burma? I will lobby in EU in order to kick out all Thailand nationals from EU, unless they are not born in a EU country or have 5 million bath in a EU bank[/quote:2qjxjou3]by Li yui on Sun Jun 07, 2009 8:24 pm [58.37.3.xx] A noble idea but in the politically correct West, your lobby will be termed as discriminatory and racists. Whereas if this thing happen in Thailand, it’s considered as norm.!!

    • 11 replies, 15,424 views

    Domestic / cross cultural issues - Thai / Foreigner concerns

    Land purchase through Thai spouse forbidden: Land Dept

    By Suttisan, Created on: 28/05/2009, Last updated on: 02/10/2016

    » -- Land purchase through Thai spouse forbidden: Land Dept The director general of the Land Department has reiterated that foreigners using Thai nominees to buy land anywhere in the country will have their land title deeds revoked if caught – even if the nominee in question is a lawfully wedded...

    • triptrip commented : [quote:kgp13yfe]Could the answer be; because most land is own by Chinese-Thais and other very high up people, and they do not want to share?[/quote:kgp13yfe] The better question to ask is, WHY SHARE? I don't see Mr. Gates opening his source code "to share" much to the chagrin of the programming world. If only Mr. Job "shared" his Macintosh, the world would have been much more aesthetic. Rupert Murdoch once said, "Monopoly is a terrible thing, until one gets it". The fact is, regardless of whether the land are held by Thai Chinese or natives Thai, the owner will never share it. Why share?

    • triptrip commented : [quote:3lgpbc7l]pachangamac042 on Sun Jun 07, 2009 4:40 pm triptrip wrote: The fact is, regardless of whether the land are held by Thai Chinese or natives Thai, the owner will never share it. Why share? This question should maybe be answered by Thais, who own properties outside Thailand? But if you ask me, what about equal treatment?[/quote:3lgpbc7l] Equal treatment is good. I heard that there's a few countries that give very good and equal treatment to immigrants, both legal and illegal. Those countries even provide healthcare, land ownership, freedom of speech, movement, etc. Last I gleam from many resident forummers here, they are leaving those countries in drove because of the same reason of giving too much rights to foreigners living in their own country.

    • triptrip commented : [quote:ityn6eoi]by pachangamac042 on Sun Jun 07, 2009 5:57 pm [84.126.88.xx] Look triptrip, we are talking about buying Land for people married with Thais, not about illegal immigrants. We want to spend our time in our houses, spending millions of Bath in Thailand. We are not asking the Thais for charity. Can you spot the little difference here? [/quote:ityn6eoi] The underlying theme is still the same, rights for foreigners, legal or otherwise. The fact that some countries open up their properties for sale and through free market mechanism, pushing property prices sky high and out of reach to many Thais is not something Thailand should be heading. Going off tangent, my observation is that the majority of Thai people against foreign ownership is actually the middle classes. I had a meeting recently with a foreign client about their payroll system. The foreign MD was earning in the region of 7 figures in Baht per month. To say the least that Thai HR Manager was jealous is a huge understatement. Rich Hi-So Thais have enough money to not bother with low life foreigners who migrate to Thailand. The rich always attract the rich. The offspring of Cheravanont and Chirathiwat hang around with the children of rich tycoons over the world. And these rich foreigners have enough money to push through any Thai legislation that is in place if they so wish to own anything in Thailand

    • 186 replies, 1,555,754 views

    Buying property + home in Thailand : issues + guidelines

    condo strategy

    By Mike, Created on: 23/12/2008, Last updated on: 11/12/2014

    » Sorry but the property forum does not allow anything to be posted for reasons i dont know, so i have to ask here and hope somebody with knowledge can advise: 1. condo at "symphony" 80m2 2bedroom bought after onnut skytrain station very nice just 50k/sqm, nice design, only 50 units. Builds...

    • triptrip commented : Mike, you want to sell Condo 1 with a 3M profit in the current environment!! Wow....sorry to pour cold water but it's wishful thinking. Imagine your Condo 1 will have price tag of 7M with an avg sqm of THB 87,500 per sqm. I have a condo in pre phra kanong canal and i dont think I can get that kind of price per sqm now.

    • 2 replies, 11,417 views

    Thai legal issues and laws

    Writer jailed for 'insulting' Thai royals

    By Voice, Created on: 19/01/2009, Last updated on: 17/06/2009

    » Writer jailed for 'insulting' Thai royals Australian writer Harry Nicolaides is jailed for three years after being found guilty of insulting the Thai monarchy in his novel. Today news from the BBC, after heard the news I thought that maybe it time that maybe we should all discussing this kind of...

    • triptrip commented : [quote:10ya0qj8] I have much respect for the R_yal family and I also have much respect for my freedom of speech and expression. Therefore my question is does we need to apply the same rules to the R_yal family as we have apply for \\ /////? Does they deserve the same right rules of law to \\ ///// good example? [/quote:10ya0qj8] Actually, if the same rules for us is applicable to the Rayol family then the Rayol family can sue anyone who defames them in the court of law, just like the man on the street dont you think? The rayol family does attract a lot of attention and naturally some people may want to provoke them like say something really nasty but without proper evidence supporting their claims. Much like a celebrity who is in the limelight all the time and people writing ludicrous claims about their personal life, think of the recent "pregnancy" of Lydia. If I say your family or mum is a whore, would you not be insulted and sue me for defamation unless I have 100% evidence that your mom indeed sold her body? Even if that's true, there's no need for me to tell the whole world about it with or without your consent. Sometimes, I think it's really difficult to be in the Rayol family since it's really a case of danmed if you do and danmed if you don't. p.s. I dont support the lese majeste law as I think it's outdated.

    • triptrip commented : This case in particular, the author has lived in thailand for some time and had worked in a Southern University and to show such ignorance of the law is no excuse. Every visitor be it first timer or veteran is constantly reminded to mind their own words and business when it comes to the Rayol Family. This guy knows the law, chooses to break it and get punished for it. For me, end of case. Note, I am not defending or arguing the use of LM law or its existence, relevance, or anything. It remains a fact that this LM law is a law in Thailand and anyone who violates the law shall be liable for the punishment outlined in that particular law. Sometimes I think that westerners like to "har leung" meaning looking for trouble unlike their asian counterparts where their conduct tend to be more reserve. Also, Asians tend to follow instructions more than their Western counterpart. If you are not allowed to do it, then don't do it. That's the philosophy while Westerners tend to like to push their luck a little bit too far sometimes. The anti-establishment streak in them also gets them into trouble.

    • triptrip commented : Hi pachangamac042, actually im not sure if any of us actually read the book itself? Apart from news clippings giving a very high level of the "offence" we or rather myself, have not read the contents of the book to make any judgement. My point is that we know these things are very sensitive, even when we discuss these so called rumors or gossips with close friends or associates, it has to be done in a hush hush basis. Why want to risks one's life by going public in the first place? That's the thing I don't understand about the writer. I mean, go publish it outside Thailand and never come back again like Handley. Make your money and go. But not this guy, for some reason, he thinks it's ok. Again, i'm not arguing whether the sentence is harsh or whether such law is outdated or anything. It is clear Thailand has such law, we foreigner better respect it whether we like or not else.......well, let's have a cold beer like someone previously mentioned, this guy could be a scapegoat, a sort of sacrificial lamb to send a message to the foreign communities in Thailand, DO NOT MESS WITH US. maybe....who knows.

    • 312 replies, 1,158,552 views

    Domestic / cross cultural issues - Thai / Foreigner concerns

    Why do ONLY foreigners get special promotion?

    By Anonymous, Created on: 28/01/2008, Last updated on: 05/02/2014

    » The advertising board on the way to Airport is shown "Foreigner Zone.. Buying house (somewhere around Bangkok..) Foreigner, with Special Price!!" I know the property company may want to attract foreigners to invest in property in Thailand. But, what about Thais who also want to own the...

    • triptrip commented : [quote:2pmhtrun]AFTER trying on an item and offering the asking price, we are told that is the wholesale price and only applicable if 2 of the same item are bought by us. When my wife says she only wants one, the original asking price is hiked some 30% to 50% and the sales assistant will not budge from that new price. I have no idea if there is a "husband is Farang" factor here and they think we will accept the hike, or whether it is a deceptive tactic for all customers (be they Thai, Farang or foreign) for getting the customer "sold" on the item and then change the price. [/quote:2pmhtrun] The price quoted for 2-3 pieces or more are called "raka soong" meaning wholesale price. It's normal for many clothes shop to sell this way. This is to quickly reduce one's stock and overhead costs. A single piece of clothing or jewellery will be quoted the retail price. this is applicable to both Thai and non Thais. Not just farang. Many Thais or non Thais (mainly Asian shoppers) tend to overcome this by asking other customers to join forces to make up the requisite minimum number to get the cheaper price. For example if you only need 1 item and the next customer needs 2, so in total, 3 items and you may qualify for raka soong. Many times, my Thai wife has in the past been approached by Singaporeans/Malaysian/Chinese/etc customers whilst shopping to join forces in order to get wholesale prices. Japanese or Koreans are rich enough not to bargain whilst Westerners are more uptight or maybe too confused with the system to get their head around.

    • triptrip commented : [quote:1ze4a2f9]I too met the special price for foreigners a couple of weeks ago. I was informed that the electric sign I errected would incurr tax as would a sign in Thai. However, my sign would be taxed at four times the rate of a Thai sign as it is written in English! [/quote:1ze4a2f9] Signage Tax is a type of tax codified in the Revenue Code. The way it's taxed is based on the size of the sign. For signage with only romanised character, the tax rate is higher, whilst a sign with only Thai characters will be taxed at a cheaper rate. In the case where both romanised and Thai characters are included in the sign, the tax rate is half of what the full romanised only tax rate is. Next time you look at any sign in Thailand, you will notice that on the top right hand corner, they will include a small Thai character of the product/company name. This way, they will reduce the signage tax by half.

    • 81 replies, 319,453 views

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