Chiefy commented : Be careful what you wish for!!All Europeans who insist all Thais should speak the language of the european country they go to may feel differently if the same language laws applied to retirement and married visas here inThailand.Ref.Thais in England for years and not able to speak English-How many of long resident europeans in Thailand speak Thai,in my experience[21 years] about 0.1%. Chiefy

ThaiPride commented : Hey everyone, For the one who asked whether I just married, yes, we married about 4 months ago. Soon, if all the papers go through, I will be moving her and her 10 y/o son to England with me, letting her start a better life. I will hire a maid for the house in Thailand or we will ask for another family member to move in and help her parents. I hope we will not have any problems with her language, that's why I really don't agree with the new immigration rules. If I am correct, I remember seeing post saying, 'if you really love her, money is not an issue.' We love each other immensely and will stay together a long time. What I haven’t said yet is that I also send 50k Baht per month to her family still so they don't have any further problems. We have also discussed Thai culture and polygamy. She said that it is perfectly fine to do so. Therefore soon I will be looking for one more lovely girl. I run a business in England and money is good so I really do not see a problem with anything what I am paying for. I see it as an investment. It is an escort service and if they want to work for me I will be happy to give them a job. Just for everyone to learn a little something. Dowry is central Asian custom same as India where the family of the bride pays the family of the groom. On the other hand, 'bride wealth' is the South East Asian custom where the family of the bride receives gifts and wealth from the family of the groom. If you do not believe me, please look it up.

Rasken commented : To the main subject: Language test for thais who want visa for England or Germany: I am a Norwegian who are married to a thai woman and I'm glad we have a different system i Norway. If you come to Norway for family reason then you must take 250 hours in Norwegian language. This is of course free. If you feel you need it, you can get 3000 hours for free. In addition to that: during the course you get the chance to pratice in different companies where you later on might get hired. Should we take the German system, then there would not be many thai in Norway. I think it is arrogance with such demands. The thais that comes to Norway get well integrated during and after fullfilling the cources. In this forum there also have been said much about thai women, especilly women from Isan. My experience is that thai, include isans, are as individual as any other population. It is ignorant to say anything about a persons personality on the basis of their origin or education/lack of education. I know people with education and an ignorant apperance and vice versa. I all depends of who you really are, not social class or geografic origin. My wife is a nurse, but her family are poor farmers. When we married money was never an issue. Of course there is this dowry, but that is often only a social thing to show the neighbours that their daughter married a decent man. We all (me and my sisters family) put money in the basket and later we get our money back. My mother in law had no wish for money for her self, only that I promised to take care of her daughter. As a man round 60 I never looked for a young girl. Yes, have a night with a young and pretty girl might be exiting, but live with every day? I have no need to look down on men who does, but that is not my cup of tea. Also, I'm not interested in having more children and with what right have I do deny a young girl that privilege? Besides: If you are 60 and can get a girl 25 in a poor country, but not in your own country, what does that tell you? Any way. To the main subject: Find a man from another country than GB or Germany, Khun Noy. To the latter: All people are unique. Don't ever categorize individual after their origin or ofther group-identificators. There are good and bad people in all categories/nationalities. I also have read some ciriticism of some participants here. Bear over with me, I'm not a native english speaker.

prommee_NE commented : But not like England...where Justice IS Justice! Rich or Poor!

kokok commented : Well, I think you people should know that this is the case with not just Thailand, America or any other country for that matter (Don’t know about England!) but the whole world. Money is power. We can literally do anything with money. Money is what we all want. Right? Same goes with anyone and is it not obvious that we are living in an era of complete bribery? I do hope he had insurance though!