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    Buying property in Thailand

    By Anonymous, Created on: 17/02/2006, Last updated on: 11/11/2011

    » Nothing much to say here is there, i think that IAN has told us all there is to know and believe me.......... .he's right.

    • Anonymous commented : Hey Aussie Dave. I thought that you probably missed this article since business section can sometimes be very boring. This partnership will be good for the business community. In the long term, common Thais will not be able to afford to live and or visit these places. The one of possitive aspect is that this business will help bring/improve the building standards/codes in Thailand to first world standard. Since certain ethnic developers will not meet the world building standards/codes due to profit and their old building habits. Real Estate/Residential Sales Dutch Brokerage Taps Luxury Market, 25 February 2006 The Dutch property brokerage My Trusted House (MTH) is expanding into Asia, using Thailand as its base to explore business opportunities in the region. ''We started with Thailand because European people love to take holidays here. After their visits, some people want to buy a house to stay here,'' said Ronald Joosten, the executive partner of MTH Asia Pacific Co. My Trusted House is a leading property sales and marketing agent in Europe, with a focus on luxury vacation homes. It established MTH Asia Pacific with Thai partners to handle its first operation in Asia. The local partners have not been named. Mr Joosten said that Europeans felt comfortable about investing in property in Thailand, despite the lack of land ownership rights for foreigners. ''Thailand is very strong in terms of safety, the economy as well as political [stability] compared with other Asian countries,'' he said. Apart from tourists, the company intends to target as potential customers the large number of expatriates in top management positions with multinational companies in Thailand. It will also link up with accounting, financial and law firms to help ensure that foreigners earn benefits from their property investments in Thailand. The strong growth of the local resale market for real estate also appeals to investors, Mr Joosten added. The company's first venture in Asia is Royal Maritime in Sattahip, Chon Buri. It consists of 25 luxury villas with prices ranging between 30 million and 70 million baht each. The company will hold its first event, called Living Rich Asia, this weekend at the Raffles Park Nai Lert Hotel in Bangkok, in order to introduce itself and the new villa project to affluent Thai clients. It will also arrange its first tour of Thailand for 50 affluent European investors in March. In addition, MTH plans to join with a local cable TV operator to set up Travel TV, aiming to broadcast across Thailand by the end of this year. The travel TV channel will be its key marketing tool following the success in Europe of Liberty TV, its 24-hour leisure and lifestyle channel based in Luxembourg. The television programming focuses on selling vacation-related products including hotels, airline tickets and property. The channel is currently seen in Luxembourg, Germany France, the Netherlands and Belgium. MTH has other property projects in the pipeline in Chiang Mai, Phuket, Samui and Bangkok. After Thailand, the company will expand its business into other Asian countries, including China and Singapore.

    • 119 replies, 367,763 views

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    getting engaged

    By Anonymous, Created on: 12/01/2006, Last updated on: 08/05/2006

    » Hi All I have been dating my Thai girlfriend for some time now and i return to thailand in feb 06, I have asked her to return to england with me and spend some time to see how see likes it. I would like to get engaged with her and then once she has spent some time with me in uk, i will ask her...

    • Anonymous commented : Hi All, I have spent many hours reading various post's on the forums, I need some advise prior to getting legal assistance. I met a 18 year old Thai-Chinese girl in Bkk in Aug 2005 and must say she is very mature for her age and above normal intelligence. Her family are or were middle class and have thier own business and live in Bang Na with most of the relatives in near by soi's (area). She was living at the time with what I found out later to be her sugar daddy from early 18 late 17 yrs old and her parents allowed it as they were told he was her friends dad from high school and was paying for her university fees, as a 'Good Citizen'!!! I am very street wise and travelled world wide and have lived part time in various countrys in Asia along with Thailand for over 5 yrs. Cut a long story short after many months of chat on internet and phone she confessed to all I had basically had worked out from day one and being upfront as I am 'I asked her many questions from day one as it did not seem normal to me and felt like something was not as she stated. She confessed to the fact that 'YES' he was her sugar daddy so to speak and that he had found her through her birth date when she was at high school due to him being involved in a spiritual sect in Bkk known as TANTRA. She asked me to help her escape!!! I asked what she was meaning by escape and from who and from where? She told me she only went to him after her step dad's business went down and her family financially were not able to pay for her university and all she wanted was to finish university for her family with out giving them any finacnial problems along with what they were experiencing. Too cut the story even shorter I stoped all I was doing in Australia and caught the next plane to Bkk the next day, this was after about 3 months (Oct 2005) of chat on internet and telephone. She said to me when I arrived if we can go some were in Thailand and wait till she is 20 yrs old to get a passport legally with out her parents knowing cuase she had not a good relationship with her mum. I said this is not a positive way for a future friendship to develop between us and will not create a strong foundation for our relationship if we have one in the future, so I asked to meet her parents. Her mum and one aunty and her auntys husband came to dinner they accepted me as her boyfriend, I said I will like to try and build a relationship with her and pay for her univeristy and living while she studies. Her mum asked her to be good to me and that was that!!! So I got her an apartment, etc, etc. and returned to Australia, every 3-4 weeks I went to Bkk, I have been returning since October 2005. We chat daily via sms, internet and telephone. She knows I have a business in Australia, but accepted the fact that I am NOT STUPID AND KNOW THE LAWS OF THE STREET. The apartment costs 5,500bht a mth in On Nut and she has a budget to live on that is better than the avaerage salary of 8,000bht a mth in Thailand, so basicaly I did not spiol her nore have I been a cheap charly, I said to her lets go step by step and 'WHAT DO U NEED? As oppossed to how much money do You want? I am very straight forward and honest and some say (her mum & other family members) I am over confident, basicaly I know who I am and express it as I do not believe in FEAR!!! I live the life I love and believe I recieve blessings from above.... I am polite but honest.... On 30 Dec 2005 she asked me if I would like to meet the rest of her family and stay at her grandmothers home in the country 2 hrs drive from Bkk for NYE (1 Jan 2006) and said she has never taken any boy to meet her family ever in the past. I said why not I have had enough party's in my life in many countrys on NYE. So I found myself being driven to her grandmothers house via her auntys and uncles mobile phone store different aunty and uncle from the ones I met months earlier and slept next to her and her grand mother for NYE on the floor!!! I felt touched what can I say....It was pleasant. Since that time I asked her if she wanted to come visit my country being Australia and meet my friends and family and see my lifestyle. She wanted to so much it caused big trouble in her family as her mum would Not get her a passport and in Thailand the law is 20 yrs to get passport legally with out parents permission. So, I asked what next, she replied (knowing that I have never been married or even engaged and that I never planned to marry in this life time) can we please get married just for my parents, she had stated when I first met her that she never wants to marry or have children, which suited me as I have felt the same all my life. I am 36 yrs old now and she is 19 yrs old now, I was 35 when I met her... I am a very young, fit and cool 35 yrs old, 'so I am told'... lol After meeting her mum again and step dad as she grew up with a step dad her real dad did the runner on her mum when she was pregnant to this gal I am writitng about. They accepted me to marry her and asked when? it was decided Sept 2006 and they said one of thier cousins married a english man and he paid 500,000bht and gold to parents as the 'Dowry' (Sin sod or Khan Maak). I said ok can she come to Australia 1st to meet my family and see my country to determine if she wants to live thier and if she likes it so we can plan our future together in a mature and logical way with out pressure and time frames. They said 'NO' marry 1st, and then said have a quik wedding and you can take her. I felt like I was being sold a human being and backed off and told her in front of her parents and one Thai-indian friend I asked to acompany me to this lunch meeting - that I DONT BUY PEOPLE, its Illegal in my country and immoral & degrading according to the way I was raised. We have had many problems since that meeting with her parents. Since that time this young gal has tried to commit suicide, run away from her famliy and myself, she cutt off all communications with me and told me not to marry her as her family are what we had talked about regaing many Thai's and started to treat her as a ATM due to the fact that she had a farang boyfriend, she cheated on me with a other man. I felt It would be best if I hired an interpreting service here in Australia and talk direct to her mum via a Thai interpreter provided by my Govt. services, after that 1 and half hour chat with her mum on the phone that costed over $200AUD I caught a plane to Bkk 3 weeks ago and found her, we spent Sokran festival together on 2 of the Islands after having dinner with her parents and brother and they gave permission...lol...Her step dad said he respects me for bringing her back home after she had left to go live with that Sugar daddy Cult...and that I am a good man he felt... We went away together and spoke in detail about all the events that took place over the past 8 months. I am now back in Australia, and I am a little confussed but feel like I know whats going on. Can anyone tell me what they think of the above even though its in brief and I have cut a long story very short.... I would also like to know if anyone can tell me how much a 'Dowry' is normaly paid to the family? (Amount & Gold) Do legal agreements legaly cover my assets in Thailand? She has said she will sign any legal document from my legal advisers regarding the protection of my assets in Australia... Does a legal registered marriage in Thailand protect the Farang? Or does it differ from a Thai to Thai marriage? She has stated she loves me, and will be loyal as its the Thai culture way and she has been a good person to me over all, so I am split 50/50. No she is Not a Glamour, and not the type of girlfriend I have even dated in my life in any country, she is average looking, tiny/thin and short. But I must say I was and am attracted to her thinking pattern and level of intellect and do see potential as a real life friend/partner or what ever you wish to call it when 2 people have a meeting of the minds 'Soul-Mate? Thanks in advance... Thong Lo (my Thai nick name) lol

    • 13 replies, 8,567 views

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    divorce and marriage law in thailand

    By Anonymous, Created on: 23/04/2005, Last updated on: 12/07/2007

    » can any one advise me the following matter. a friend of mine will be getting married to his thai fiancee in 12 days time in thailand. what i would like to know is if the marriage should sadly break down and then his wife goes back to thailand after say they have lived in england for about 6 months...

    • Anonymous commented : Hi, As a Thai woman, I apologise on behalf of my country for the bad experience that some of you have been through. My best friend who is an expatriate is just being into a similar situation, although he has been living in Thailand for years and we have warned him about his very young Thai partner who he met in a pub. However, it is not indicated that all Thais or Thai girls are bad or being money hunters. In Thai society, we are also preoccupied with class but more flexible. The class is ranked by social status, money (of course), education, manner, and morality (sometimes, including the accents). When the Westerners visit or even work in Thailand, unfortunately they cannot notice the differences. General Thai public do not accept that kind of behaviours and we can identify those types of people easily. Depending on where you go or whom you are associated with and activities you are taken, the cautions should therefore be taken in the same ways as when you are anywhere else in the world. Best wishes,

    • Anonymous commented : Zebedee Before read on my message, sit down and have someone with you just in case you go mad. You were fooled by these marriage scams. No good woman (especially Thais) will marry a guy whom she knows for only one week! This sounds like an organised gang try to lure westerners to the country and pushing for marriage, abusing the marriage tradition. As for the reasonable dowry question for this woman, none. And I also suggest you to report this incident to police so that they can investigate this fraud and put stop on it. You cannot go fishing for bride by going online if you want to find a mother for your children and not just a casual partner. And you don’t need to come to Thailand either. I’m sure there are many nice Brit girls in your own country.

    • 66 replies, 27,286 views

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    thai divorce and property law

    By Anonymous, Created on: 21/02/2005, Last updated on: 16/01/2006

    » I'm a U.S. citizen and married to a thai guy in U.S., he has nothing in U.S. but business ownership, land and bank accounts in thailand. our baby is going to be U.S. citizen, i want to know, is it true by law that he told me that i cannot co-own any business, land or bank account of his? what can...

    • Anonymous commented : Rooster, sometimes you presume too much, my wife is not steralized. And her children all have a good career. But its a matter of principal. My wife can get all my property in my country; The law protect her very well. Because when the husband or wife die, the remaining partner gets everyting. There is no difference between children from a previous mariedge. After the remaining partner die, it will be divided between the children ALL the children. If you make a last will and their is no prenuptional agreement, you can only make that will about 50% of you belongings. But the real estate can be used or leased by the remainng partner as long as she alive as like she or hewas the owner , The only thing you can sale the property, whthout agreement of the children, and after the sale you must share the profit for 50%.To make it even more clear, when my wife and me die; the children in Thailand will inherent my property, even they are not a Belgium national. Now you understand what I mean?

    • 44 replies, 19,067 views

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    Thai Divorce law

    By Anonymous, Created on: 02/12/2004, Last updated on: 09/01/2009

    » I heard from a farang that under Thai law men can divorce women in two days. But for a woman, it takes two years. The reasoning being that women are thought of as temperamental creatures, prone to wild mood swings, who need plenty of time to calm down...

    • Anonymous commented : Although I agree that it is wrong that I cannot buy land in Thailand yet a Thai can buy land in my country there are many ways of owning a house here. If you really distrust your partner (you should leave but) you can buy the house in her name with your name on the deed as the mortager. That way you retain control. You can lease the house that is on the land that is in someone else's name. There are more ways but these are just a couple of examples. I just put our land in my wife's name and accept that if the worst happens I walk away from that. My business is mine and the property is hers. I do not plan on divorce but I always consider the worst possible scenario. My wife has done a lot for me and she is entitled to here share. I do not want to shaft her any more than I want to get shafted.

    • 49 replies, 65,617 views

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    enry into the u.k. for thai girlfriends/partners

    By Anonymous, Created on: 02/01/2005, Last updated on: 07/06/2006

    » I started out trying to help my Thai employee (with a British passport) to bring her twenty two year old daughter to the U.K. for a family visit. Thought it would be a breeze. Mother rents a single room so I offered my family home for daughter to stay in during visit. I've heard stories about the...

    • Anonymous commented : Thanks one and all for your help. Sadly, I couldn't pick up the help issues until now. So, what happened? Yep, I went out to Thailand on my cause celebre and married the girl I spoke of. It was a beautiful buddhist ceremony followed by a civil ceremony. I thought, that's it then, now they'll have to let her in. Doh! No such chance. Having satisfied all, and I mean all, the criteria, the U.K. Embassy in Bangkok refused to allow a visa entry on the grounds that "the marriage was not subsisiting". Beware everyone, this is their get out clause. So I read up on the issues and citied article 8 of the Human Rights Act whereby we assumed we had the right to a family life and that meant being together. WRONG! It is a protected right and even though the balance of probabilities was in our favour, they still refused. I've had my sympathetic MP on the case and even David Treisman - The Lord Treisman of Tottenham (none the less!) but even these bigwigs are no match for the truly arrogant and seemingly omnipotent Entry Clearance Manager and related staff in Bangkok. Our only hope is to wait for the independant appeal heard in the U.K. but waiting time is somewhere between one and two years (bit of a backlog of asylum seekers to clear). Apparently bribery and corruption is still rife in Bangkok and I advise you, as I was advised, this is the only sure way to get your partners into the U.K. Believe me, I've had a Thai agency, two MPs and a Lord working on it and if they can't do nowt, what hope do you have? I want to waffle about the injustice of it all and how I see, daily, the Thai prostitutes that have been allowed entry into the U.K. as well as all of the other nationalities that are sponging off our soft country. My Thai wife is an academic and wishes to study business, I have considerable means to support her and she requires zilch from our 'precious' public funds. On this basis, I am ashamed to be British and will no longer consider myself as such. I too will leave this stinking country to live in Thailand (although I have young children to take care of first). Be warned, one and all. The process appears simple but THEY will definately judge you and you will be able to do NOTHING about it.

    • 13 replies, 7,030 views

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    British Embassy in Bangkok

    By Anonymous, Created on: 05/10/2004, Last updated on: 25/02/2011

    » In March, my Thai partner wanted to visit me in London. Before granting a visa, the Embassy wanted a mountain of paperwork including proof of my income, whether or not I woned my own home and a whole lot of other things. At this stage, I have to say that we have many controversial issues in the UK...

    • Anonymous commented : Boy! This subject sure got you guys going. Well, I am in the same boat and can pretty much confirm all your worst fears. There is corruption in the Bangkok Embassy ( I only wish I knew the system before I made a legal application) and there are all sorts of ways to bring your Thai partners in (via the back door). The chinese do it nicely by applying to a country that is a little less stringent, say Belgium or Eire and then once settled make the E.U. hop into the U.K. My original post, " Ways and means of entry into U.K. for Thai nationals" explains my situation with just as much response and support as you see here. My Thai wife is still in Thailand, she's a university graduate in business and I have the support of my MP and enquiriesmade on my behalf by David Treisman, The Lord Treisman of Tottenham. Even a Lord cannot swing it for me. I cannot get an interview with David Fall, the Ambassador in Bangkok, even though it is my right. By god I want to complain! What I would like to know is, is anyone of any worth reading this, anyone who can make a difference, anyone with some sort of power to make change? If not, we are all lost causes and things will continue as they are. As for the BangkokEmbassy staff, they are all very rude, over officious, faceless beaurocrats who really don't give a damn about you or I, let alone some foreign spouse or partner. They are omnipotent in respect of who they grant a visa to. An appeal, I hear you cry! After six months Bangkok have finally released our application papers to the U.K. so we can now expect an appeal date for some one or two years hence, (due to the backlog of asylum seekers I am reliably informed). When the civil uprising begins, someone give me a shout beacuase I hold this country in the lowest of esteems... Good Luck all!

    • Anonymous commented : I am married to my partner, she has property and a business. We have money in the bank and live here with goods jobs (both of us). When I wanted to take her to England to visit my family the British Embassy failed to decide whether to give her a visa or not until the day after the flight. They knew when the flight was because you give that information on the visa application. They are nothing to be proud of. The only easy way to get a visa is a fiance visa. I think this is sick. I think people should be encouraged to visit their partner's country *before* they decide to marry. What if they do not like it? Does it make sense to force people to get married before they are ready? Does this mean there are many people that get married, end up in a country they find they do not like and that has a negative effect on the marriage that may have been premature anyway? My partner came on a later flight as I could not wait. At Heathrow they gave her a hard time because they thought there must be something wrong because she was alone. "Why isn't your husband with you?" I can imagine how my previous (British) wife would have responded to that :) I would have just loved to watch :) No matter what, the Thais are treated badly in the west. As Rooster says though, you will find that Thai immigration is not perfect either.

    • 64 replies, 66,876 views

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