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    Purachai Ruins Poors Thais

    By Anonymous, Created on: 01/02/2005, Last updated on: 04/01/2006

    » Thaksin's deputy PM Mr. Purachai is thinking about moving to New Zealand, according to Bangkok Post, 27th January. Purachai already has children there - studying / buying big-time real-estate. This despite his government continuing Thailand's ban on foreigner's...

    • Anonymous commented : hen I read your comments it strengthens my assesment that the likelihood of yet another military coup are increasing. We have to remember that the Thai military is the co-guardian of 1932 democracy. The military also delivered enormous prosperity under General Sarit, plus increasing democracy under General Prem. The current civilian government looks increasingly corrupt. Right now, if the military cleaned them out, I think a coup would be supported by more than half Bangkok. But not up-country : though they could be bought off.

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    thai divorce and property law

    By Anonymous, Created on: 21/02/2005, Last updated on: 16/01/2006

    » I'm a U.S. citizen and married to a thai guy in U.S., he has nothing in U.S. but business ownership, land and bank accounts in thailand. our baby is going to be U.S. citizen, i want to know, is it true by law that he told me that i cannot co-own any business, land or bank account of his? what can...

    • Anonymous commented : Is it Tre or Tress? If you do not want to have headache in dealing with Thai legal system, you can purchase condominium in your name. These are many nice condomunium complexes in Bangkok Metroplex including over looking Chao Phraya river. Why is condominium? Condominium has land that is a community property and no single individual owning the land. Oh, there is a very nice adandoned condominium project next to the Chao Phraya river with over 100 stories, and I wish that some foreign developers would come in and take over the project...preferably US companies with American style of property management and local investers.

    • Anonymous commented : h police official in a large city. My son feels that if they are in collusion, and only after money, he might just "disappear" over there---or have weed planted on him and have to pay his way out of jail. Is there any way to get an annulment w/o returning? The marriage is registered in Bangkok, but she insists it can be annulled in her home of Khon Kaen city? She refuses to meet him anywhere else as he has suggested. If he disappears, or gets run off the road, she will still own half of his assets, right? Even though they have only spent a few hours together after the marriage and haven't seen each other since? Worries about this girl are driving him crazy. At first her phone calls and emails were affectionate. Then in the spring she became a vixen demanding more and more money and threatening to go to Pattya if he continued to "starve" her. She is in the exact same position as before the marriage--no extra expenses--she is paid for taking care of her sister's child--an eight year old nephew--at 800 Bahts a month...she lives at home (and does most of the work for her father and mother). Do girls usually insist on being supported Before they arrive in America on visa. He had wanted a fiancee visa, but was told by the sister and husband that this was impossible because of her age---26---and because her job as a family nanny---previously she worked in a karoke bar and was supposedly going to accounting school...for the year when she and my son corresponded. My son thought, and still occasionally thinks that maybe, there is a translation problem...as now all she talks about is money and his obligations...and that he is selfish for only sending her 2-250 bahts a month...he was saving for wedding, visas, fixing up his house for her, etc. He told them he wasn't a rich farang, just a 20ish architectural draftsman, starting his own business. This whole situation is making him sick---first believing she loves him, then believing she has someone new lined up. Any clues? It was when she started withdrawing money from a bank in Bangkok while claiming she was in Khon Kaen that he demanded answers...she claims the bank is crazy...though they've checked twice, and she claims it was from a Bangkok St in Khon Khan...but when he asked her to withdraw from that account again, she refused. Any hope? His sister who once travelled alone to Thailand recently, had all her money stolen by a man she thought was a Thai friend the first day in the country; then had a marijuana leave planted in her backpack on a train, when she left it to go to the bathroom which a Thai lady warned her about, so she was able to extricate it---and sure enough 15 mintues later a couple police came through asking to check inside luggage. This is a long letter, sorry, but we have no one to turn to. So far no one here knows any Thai law...at the law school...

    • Anonymous commented : sed to the higher amount and hit the roof and refuse to maintain the budget by spending all the $250 from the account he set up for her as soon as it arrived--the first week of the month and then cajoling constantly for more.. When he refused to send more--as he had warned her he must save for visa, marriage and take care of his new business--She claimed he was starving her and not meeting his obligations. She didn't seem to ever believe him when he would tell her by phone and by email NO NO NO to outspending the $250 each month. She never sent any sad ,separated sweetheart kinds of emails, once he forced her to stay within budget (she receives 8000 bahts a month from her sister for caring for the sister's 8 year old spoiled son---even bathing him, dressing him, powdering his bottom, and catering to his every whim) In the spring, she only wrote about her husband's being "selfish---all my Thai friends agree---you're selfish---just like Thai men are." (???) "Why did you sign marriage registration if you weren't going to support me?!! Why you lie? How can I trust you?" She also got him to provide for English lessons, and claimed to be the best student in her class, but then dropped the classes this spring, around the time he started "starving" her. This girl has a car, lives in a new high standard house which the three sisters just bought for their parents---to get them out of police housing. They also have a country house, with rice, pond, etc. The father isn't retired, still working but spends most of his time with his girlfriend and refuses to pay mortgage for the house, so daughters are each to pay a third...so new bride keeps asking my son to send money for mortgage ASAP.... 1) Could they annul and then apply for a K-1 visa with any chance of success? 2) In an uncontested divorce, in a marriage of 8 months, in which the couple has never lived together since registration, could the "husband" sign papers in US and get a proxy to present them at the amphur? 3) If they married in Bangkok, shouldn't they divorce there instead of in Khon Kaen which she insists? 4) Although non-contested, can the Amphur then assess a lot of trumped up fines on my son, and refuse to let him leave the country until they were paid? (She might have run up credit card debts or whatever in the nine months since he's seen her...) 5) Could he divorce her from the US, according to Thai laws, and send the papers over? We believe that last spring, she might have reunited with an old Thai boyfriend; or that her sister is lining up one of her husband's older friends to marry her next...they seem awfully anxious to end it....but my son says he would be a sitting duck for the cops or old boyfriends or whomever---leaving her with all his worldly assets, or at least half...(Somehow his bank knew of his recent foreign marriage, although he has never informed them? Weird...she has US in-laws with former CIA connections...it feels claustrophia and maybe we're paranoid...but reading the UN Report about Human Rights Violations during the Crackdown...and the disappearance of farangs, and the recognition that the police system is questionable and prisons unassailable...going back isn't an option, but the need to end this travesty is weighing on all of us...as we vasilate like the ones who write to Stickman...She's innocent/she's not; she's cohersed/she instigating; she's Cinderella/she's Cruella de Ville; she has a Thai boyfriend/she doesn't/she is lining up a richer farang/she's heartbroken; he could go safely and quickly for a co-signing/he will get hit with lawsuits and not be able to leave the country; he would be safe in Bangkok/he would be set upon by a gang paid to avenge Thai girl's loss of face---farang thinks $250 enough for ME while he saves for wedding!!! Then one day he noticed while she was suppose to be at home--as she stated in her email--visiting with friends next door in Khon Kaen--documents from the account he set up for her had a withdrawal from Bangkok. When he asked her about this she said it was a mistake. She claimed she hadn't returned to Bangkok since their wedding, the day he flew back to Montana. He went to great effort to have the bank double-check where the withdrawal occurred. She claimed it was the Malikan branch on Bangkok Road in Khon Kaen. So--he sent her $85 and told her to please use that same branch bank for the withdrawal...she has refused and asked that he drop the subject as it is boring her, and she dislikes him accusing her as she is innocent. Ever since her weird behavior this spring, my son and I have been combing the internet to try and understand Thai culture, divorce and marriage laws, bar girls and found this forum. She has belatedly agreed to co-signing an annulment, and wants him to apply for the K-1 afterwards. However, when he asks that she and her mother or whomever, and nephew meet him in Bangkok where they married for annulment, with him paying all expenses, hotel, plane, etc. She refuses and says they must meet in Khon Kaen. My son worries that it wouldn't be safe to return to Khon Kaen. Although agreeing to co-signment of a non-contested divorce, she seems to be talleying up "her" expenses---could they hit him with a big bill for costing her "face" or whatever...and refuse to let him leave the country w/o his first paying? With a police chief father, who seems to really enjoy finding drug cars, which the police can then keep for themselves, and an uncle who is a lawyer---and the kind of records she seems to be keeping---it seems highly unlikely that my son can sail in, sign, and sail out. Would a proxy be allowed? The girl, herself, seems to rather naive, she has been caring for her sister's (who married a farang GI) child since the boy was 2 years old---the child is constantly being refused immigration by Thai authorities. The family seems to have an agenda of their own and she is just a pawn in the game...or so it seemed, until last spring when she seemed to change character from a loving bride and began ranting for more and more money. (We chalked it up to some translator writing the letters...perhaps even her sister who is now rich via marrying a farang who later became successful businessman. NO to spending outside the budget, but she just went ahead. Then threatened to become a bar-girl if he didn't send between 450 and 500 dollars a month. Later, she said this wasn't a serious threat, only a "test" of him. Originally the future wedding ceremony in Khon Kaen was agreed by the family to be: $1000 bride price, a modest ceremony which could be up to a $1000, and a diamond ring. Then this spring, arguing for $400 or $500 a month--which was never agreed upon priorly although she claims so--she also demands now for the wedding: 150,000 bahts for mother; 150,000 bahts for reception which the Mom will cater ; and 150,000 bahts for show at wedding--with an unspecified amount returned later. One one-carat diamond ring. She now claims if these demands aren't meant her parents will refuse to let her come to America. Also, recently she has said if $250 monthly isn't sent to mother then she won't be "allowed" to go. Once in America, she claims she will try to pay half of Mom's costs. My son thought maybe they could get non-contested annulment and then apply for a K-1 visa for her---as it seems risky to bring her to America as a wife---while he would be protected if she were only a fiancee. If they were simpatico here, they could marry in the US, and then return for the Thai ceremony in a year (and he could get a pre-nup before he marries her here.) Would this work?

    • Anonymous commented : rom Thai woman if both agree, it is uncontested, and they have never lived together since registration in Bangkok eight months ago?

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    Understanding Thai Men, help

    By Anonymous, Created on: 25/03/2005, Last updated on: 16/08/2007

    » Dear forum, I've just returned from my first trip to Thailand, and I did enjoy the people and culture very much. Hope to return soon. I wasn't looking for a boyfriend on my visit, or even a date actually, but I became a little romantically friendly with one Thai man (met through mutual friend)....

    • Anonymous commented : in the Gay and lesbian communities where permanent relationship is not serious. However, common-law marriage is very common among poor Thais and low class Thais where socio-economic and traditional values are lacking that can be found in every subcultures and urban areas. Men and women are unfaithful in Thailand as much as they are in EU or in North American. The most distinguish differences between modern western and Thai sexual practices are that casual sex and co-habilitation between single men and single women are not as common. Thai men, who respecting their families and their girlfriends, would visit the brothels for sexual activities lather than violate the virtue of their girlfriends/finances. If the girls are not virgins and without virtues, then they are like open season for hunters/Casanovas. So these girls are very much like play-things where both parties have open relationships and could move on for greener pastures. Majority of urbanite men are smarter now and prefer to take advantage of women so there are very few mistresses. The stupid girls would end-up pregnant and having children without child support from the men or government. These girls would most likely become prostitutes, which is better flex-time with nicer incomes than average minimum wage. I knew so many of these girls that it is not even funny anymore. If they got smarter, they might find local good men or foreign men to marry. Western men do not seemed to mind marrying Thai women with children, it would be a big scandal for middle and upper class men to marry these women in Thailand. Bangkok and some parts of Thailand have different groups of foreign cultural practices. In the Muslim communities, Mulism men could have up to four wives each time. In the Chinese communities, it is common for them to have minor wives. In Thai traditional culture, rich men could have as many wives as they could afford and to treat them equally under the same roof. In the modern day, gumbo culture resulting from Western and other foreign cultures. Therefore, urban people seemed to do whatever are conveniences to them. This is possible because Thailand lacks of child support enforcement and social welfare for children and single mother, so that the Casanovas have more freedom to console to any women as they could.... My sister is a victom of Western Casanova. My cousins are victoms of common local Casanovas. One of my cousin died of AIDS and left a daughter with HIV for my uncle. The Casanova with HIV took off with another girl...who knew where? In most of these cases, traditional values and culture were not followed which resulted in disaster future for the girls.

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    British Embassy in Bangkok

    By Anonymous, Created on: 05/10/2004, Last updated on: 25/02/2011

    » In March, my Thai partner wanted to visit me in London. Before granting a visa, the Embassy wanted a mountain of paperwork including proof of my income, whether or not I woned my own home and a whole lot of other things. At this stage, I have to say that we have many controversial issues in the UK...

    • Anonymous commented : er of Parliament has no authority in his own right but his recommendation should not be overridden without an explanation. What really angered me was, after I took the trouble to contact them especially to analyse my partner's application, they refused to see me and suggested I sent an EMail. I did but it was ignored. When they returned our paperwork, I noticed that they retained the letter from my MP. which was curious. But you are right. There is something very fishy going on in the British Embassy in Bangkok. I hope I never need their help.

    • Anonymous commented : n Bangkok and elsewhere, with very high-class working women. Indeed : all levels of the social scale. But essentially it's all the same game - they're after money, by one scam or another. AND there is a fundamental incompatiblity between Thai and Western ways of looking at marriage . I.e., in the Thai way the girl marries for money for her family. In the Western way, the girl is supposed to marry for love - since she, and her family, already have money and education.

    • Anonymous commented : d on april 6th this year(traditional thai wedding) in my wifes home.on the 21st we returned to Bangkok to register the wedding at the amphur.we did it in Bangkok because i had to go to the embassy to get an afformation signed,for the amphur.At the same time we made our visa application.why return to Bangkok when you can do it all in one go? i thought.Three long months later we're at the embassy with all the documents,nerves shredded because of all the stories we've heard.........and i can say there all true.my wife was interviewed by a very ignorant and abusive english woman,who after initially looking my wife up and down like a piece of dirt refused to look at her again while conducting the interview.didnt look at any of the photos or docs we provided......well only flicked thruogh the photos.....too quikley to see what any of them were,and mixed up all the carefully prepared origional paperwork with the copies before stuffing them back in the envelope we sent them in.long story short......my wife was refused her visa on the grounds we hadnt kept text messages etc from 2003! we had two letters my wife had sent me in 2003 the dates on the stamps proved this,but the eco refused to look at them and said that wasnt enough.who keeps phone bills for two years????the reason we couldnt provide more phone bills etc as proof is because weve been living together!!!!!!!!!!! the eco said she didnt believe my wife and me had met in 2003,but had just met this tear and werent going to live together as man and wife in the uk....CRAP!!!!!!! i understand about all the non genuine applications there are......the amount of 60 year old men waiting outside for their 20 year old girlfriends proves that;One man i spoke to from england was nearing retirement age and had only ever seen his 25 year old girlfriend three times before. They were using an agency for their application....and were no doubt accepted,whereas our (in my eyes) more genuine application was flatly refused.we are now considering using an agancy too "i garantee she goes 100 %!! i garantee she goes 100%!!" as the lady at the agancy said.What do you have to do????????????????

    • Anonymous commented : he back door). The chinese do it nicely by applying to a country that is a little less stringent, say Belgium or Eire and then once settled make the E.U. hop into the U.K. My original post, " Ways and means of entry into U.K. for Thai nationals" explains my situation with just as much response and support as you see here. My Thai wife is still in Thailand, she's a university graduate in business and I have the support of my MP and enquiriesmade on my behalf by David Treisman, The Lord Treisman of Tottenham. Even a Lord cannot swing it for me. I cannot get an interview with David Fall, the Ambassador in Bangkok, even though it is my right. By god I want to complain! What I would like to know is, is anyone of any worth reading this, anyone who can make a difference, anyone with some sort of power to make change? If not, we are all lost causes and things will continue as they are. As for the BangkokEmbassy staff, they are all very rude, over officious, faceless beaurocrats who really don't give a damn about you or I, let alone some foreign spouse or partner. They are omnipotent in respect of who they grant a visa to. An appeal, I hear you cry! After six months Bangkok have finally released our application papers to the U.K. so we can now expect an appeal date for some one or two years hence, (due to the backlog of asylum seekers I am reliably informed). When the civil uprising begins, someone give me a shout beacuase I hold this country in the lowest of esteems... Good Luck all!

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