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    Thai Marriage Laws

    By Anonymous, Created on: 18/05/2007, Last updated on: 11/08/2010

    » I am trying to understand why Westerners living and married to Thai nationals are denied permanent residency status once they are legally married in the kingdom. In the west a Thai national receives residency once they are officially married to a western citizen. Procedures are followed and intensive...

    • mele.nani commented : If we look at what has happened to Hawaii perhaps the Thai laws can be seen in some perspective. Hawaii was a kingdom and a monarchy. It was self sustaining. Conservation and proper respect for natural resources was vital to survival so it was embedded into the culture. It was not a perfect world but no place is perfect. After Western contact, more and more of the land was taken over by white men. They brought in commerce, trade, new materials and many activities which made Honolulu a bustling city. They also brought disease that decimated the population. The missionaries came and took power. They rationalized it by saying the heathens needed to know Christ and that the antiquated ancient laws that protected the land and water rights were inhibiting the growth of business. Thus came the overthrow of the Hawaiian Kingdom with the use of US military forces. Hawaiians have been degraded and driven off the lands. Their lifestyles that depended on gathering, farming and hunting were replaced by industry. This is progress? Who did it serve? Yes. There were also good things brought here. If the Hawaiian nation still controlled the land and water, Hawaii would be a thriving community based on Hawaiian values. Hawaiians were an inclusive Kingdom. Many farang were citizens of Hawaii. These very citizens, who changed the laws to introduce the concept of private ownership of lands were the ones to overthrow the monarchy and lock Queen Liliuokalani in prison. Sugar barons tried to "employ" Hawaiians by tying them up like oxen to pull wagons. They built clubs exclusive only to whites, they ruled the land. Hawaiian became servants in their own country. Other nationalities came here as servants, contract workers to serve farangs. Grumble all you like but Thailand is wise to keep control of its resources. If you want another analogy look at the Native American Indians. There is a sad history there. What about New Zealand Maoris and Australian Aborigines? People have lost their land, culture, and dignity because of opportunistic greed. I am not saying you are all opportunistic, but you are in Thailand for reasons. Only you know what they are. Make a difference rather than complaining that the laws should change. You want the laws to change so that they suit you. You want things to be structured to serve your needs. Thailand should control ownership of lands, culture and religion or Thais will be foreigners in their own country. You can help. Educate your children and help the country out of its poverty, generation by generation. Be mindful of your actions. You can take ownership of your place in communities by participating in the empowerment of the poor.

    • Isaannative commented : [quote="mele.nani":3ixa5e24]If we look at what has happened to Hawaii perhaps the Thai laws can be seen in some perspective. Hawaii was a kingdom and a monarchy. It was self sustaining. Conservation and proper respect for natural resources was vital to survival so it was embedded into the culture. It was not a perfect world but no place is perfect. After Western contact, more and more of the land was taken over by white men. They brought in commerce, trade, new materials and many activities which made Honolulu a bustling city. They also brought disease that decimated the population. The missionaries came and took power. They rationalized it by saying the heathens needed to know Christ and that the antiquated ancient laws that protected the land and water rights were inhibiting the growth of business. Thus came the overthrow of the Hawaiian Kingdom with the use of US military forces. Hawaiians have been degraded and driven off the lands. Their lifestyles that depended on gathering, farming and hunting were replaced by industry. This is progress? Who did it serve? Yes. There were also good things brought here. If the Hawaiian nation still controlled the land and water, Hawaii would be a thriving community based on Hawaiian values. Hawaiians were an inclusive Kingdom. Many farang were citizens of Hawaii. These very citizens, who changed the laws to introduce the concept of private ownership of lands were the ones to overthrow the monarchy and lock Queen Liliuokalani in prison. Sugar barons tried to "employ" Hawaiians by tying them up like oxen to pull wagons. They built clubs exclusive only to whites, they ruled the land. Hawaiian became servants in their own country. Other nationalities came here as servants, contract workers to serve farangs. Grumble all you like but Thailand is wise to keep control of its resources. If you want another analogy look at the Native American Indians. There is a sad history there. What about New Zealand Maoris and Australian Aborigines? People have lost their land, culture, and dignity because of opportunistic greed. I am not saying you are all opportunistic, but you are in Thailand for reasons. Only you know what they are. Make a difference rather than complaining that the laws should change. You want the laws to change so that they suit you. You want things to be structured to serve your needs. Thailand should control ownership of lands, culture and religion or Thais will be foreigners in their own country. You can help. Educate your children and help the country out of its poverty, generation by generation. Be mindful of your actions. You can take ownership of your place in communities by participating in the empowerment of the poor.[/quote:3ixa5e24] Dear Mele.nani, Your above comments are very well written. Thank you. Thais should not end up like the New Zealand Maoris, Australian Aborigines, Hawaiian natives, American Indians & South African Natives. Become servants in their own mother land. You are so right to say Farangs want the laws to change so that they suit them and things to be structured to serve their needs. But Farangs will never admit this is true. They think this world is created for others people to serves them.

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    Industrial, Bang Rak, Bangkok

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