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    Buying property in Thailand

    By Anonymous, Created on: 17/02/2006, Last updated on: 11/11/2011

    » Nothing much to say here is there, i think that IAN has told us all there is to know and believe me.......... .he's right.

    • Anonymous commented : ver spreading land and forest encroachment by tourist resorts. The move follows an uproar over an advertisement by ''The Peak'' property project, left on a website and in a property trading guide, placed by foreign firm Samui Property Solution. The project, which spans 514 rai on Kao Dang mountain, sells land for eight million baht a rai, amounting to over 4.1 billion baht. The governor said the checks would take some time. Paitoon Lertgrai, of the provincial land office, said the checks would show how each land holder had acquired property and see if any land plots fell into the hands of foreigners, including those registered as entities. Under the law, only a company with foreigners holding up to 49% of shares and Thai partners holding 51% can acquire land. Mr Paitoon said his office has asked the Commercial Ministry to check the shareholdings of property firms on the island to ensure foreign shareholdings do not exceed the legal limit. Land would be taken back from any firms that breached the law. Meanwhile, Koh Samui district chief Decha Kangsanant and land official Charoen Chanpan claimed that ''The Peak'' operator defied an order by the Surat Thani provincial office that construction work be suspended pending the land ownership probe. Concrete roads have been laid through the mountain, though construction was allowed only on the 198-rai low-lying areas. Project administrator Suthep Wangdan claimed to have obtained permission from tambon Koh Samui municipality. He also claimed to have obtained a Nor Sor 3 land ownership document over the plot as long ago as 1989. Mr Charoen said the district land office was gathering rights papers for inspection. Caretaker Natural Resources and Environmental Minister Yongyuth Tiyapairat will take an investigation team to inspect the area tomorrow. He raised concerns about forest encroachment on the island, saying local authorities were moving too slowly to tackle the problem. A regulation to curb mountain encroachment would be introduced. It would apply in areas higher than 150 metres above sea level, and restrict the height of the buildings to no more than six metres, with each development plot limited to 75 square metres.

    • Anonymous commented : on Koh Samui resulting in the encroachment onto land by developers. Mr Theerayuth was Samui district chief before being promoted to assistant provincial chief of Surat Thani. The environment ministry felt he neglected his duty, making encroachment possible. Mr Yongyuth said his ministry will press charges today against Suthep Wangdan, The Peak project operator, over false claims about the ownership status of the resort's land. The transfer came after Mr Yongyuth inspected Koh Samui and found massive encroachment of forest land on the island. A survey found that over 1,700 rai out of 6,900 rai of forest area on the island had been cleared, and some of the encroached areas had been turned into a land development project. The inspection followed an uproar over an advertisement by The Peak property project, on a website and in a property trading guide, placed by foreign firm Samui Property Solutions. The project, which spans 514 rai on Koh Samui's Kao Dang mountain, sells land for eight million baht a rai, amounting to more than 4.1 billion baht. The project developer had named two Thai companies, Great Hills International and Ratchathani, which are subsidiaries of Bangkok-based Piyavate Hospital Group, as owners of the land. An inquiry was being conducted to see if the two firms were owned by Thais. A group of local residents yesterday submitted a complaint to the minister opposing the distribution of ownership documents on mountainous areas of the island. They claimed investors had brought several fully-grown coconut trees onto the land to show it was being utilised and to claim ownership over the encroached plots on Kao Dang mountain.

    • Anonymous commented : icians are involved in forest encroachment and land speculation on the resort island of Koh Samui, a member of the National Human Rights Commission (NHRC) said yesterday. Chaiyapan Praphasawat said illegal land grabs had increased across the island in the five years since the Thai Rak Thai party won power in 2001. Mr Chaiyapan, a member of the commission's sub-panel on land, water and forest problems, was responding to a call by caretaker Natural Resources and Environment Minister Yongyuth Tiyapairat for the Department of Special Investigation (DSI) to look into the growing land scandal. Mr Chaiyapan called on the caretaker government to take serious and sincere action to bring those involved to justice as quickly as possible. He said the sub-panel, chaired by rights commissioner Sunee Chairos, had received a flood of complaints from Koh Samui residents over the past three years. The villagers were afraid they would have no place to live one day if nothing was done to stop the rich and influential from continuing their land grab, Mr Chaiyapan said. "The information we have has implicated well-known politicians of this government in land encroachment," he said. The politicians, whose names were not revealed, acquired the land through nominees who would later sell the property to foreign developers at high prices. It was apparent that the land acquisitions were made with the use of inside information as the politicians knew well in advance about the state development plan. However, there was no evidence to prove that the villagers were forced to sell the land against their will. The politicians and land developers had bribed land officials to issue land ownership documents, including nor sor 3 kor papers, for areas designated as public land, he said. They should not have allowed the land to change hands as the original owners had no land documents, he said. "The villagers only had land use tax papers. How could they then sell their land?" Mr Chaiyapan also urged the DSI to look into other suspect areas, particularly the development of land under the government's Designated Areas for Sustainable Tourism Administration, which was the subject of many complaints. Pol Maj-Gen Latthasanya Piensomparn, commander of the natural resources and environment crime division, said the issuance of land documents for many plots on Khao Duang Nok and Khao Dang mountains on the island appeared to be illegal. However, it would be difficult to find the evidence needed to bring the wrongdoers to justice. Songsak Trichum, assistant village head of tambon Bopud in Koh Samui district, said more than half of land ownership papers on Koh Samui were unlawfully issued. He was concerned that the next generation of Thais on the island would have no land to make a living. Sunthorn Watcharakuldirok, head of a panel investigating the issuing of land documents on Koh Samui, said the probe had found that Suwat Vichaidit, a former Surat Thani land official, had issued a title deed for a 96-rai plot on Khao Duang Nok mountain to Suthep Wangdan, developer of The Peak property project. The land in question did not have a sor khor 1, a lower level land use paper required for issuing a land title deed.

    • Anonymous commented : f, adding seven cases of land encroachment on Koh Samui were being investigated by his department.

    • Anonymous commented : s began looking into possible encroachment onto forest reserve land and other illegal ownership. Caretaker Natural Resources and Environment Minister Yongyuth Tiyapairat flew to the island with investigators. He said there was evidence that several plots of land around Khao Dang and Khao Duangnok might have been obtained illegally for sale to foreigners. Meanwhile, another investigation was launched by Pien Yongnu, head of the Bangkok Metropolitan Waterworks Labour Union, who claimed that leading members of the ruling Thai Rak Thai party had bought large parcels of land from local villagers and later obtained title deeds. Sand was dumped onto rocky beaches while local authorities were ordered to cut a new road into the area, Mr Pien claimed. Our own investigations reveal that foreign companies are involved in the current land development boom on Samui. Big advertisements for property projects have appeared in Thai and foreign media to draw foreign buyers. Some of these projects are operated by foreigners who use Thai proxies to set up companies here. With a lot of money at their disposal, these foreign property developers buy land along the beaches and on the hills. We urge caretaker Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra to look into this matter and take action against anyone found to have violated the law.

    • Anonymous commented : anted in connection with land encroachment on Koh Samui yesterday surrendered to the Department of Special Investigation (DSI). Pratheep Muangkaew, a former prosecutor turned land developer, was charged by the DSI for bribing land officials into issuing land documents for his property. However, he insisted yesterday that he had acquired the land legally and without the use of bribery. Mr Pratheep bailed himself out of the Criminal Court with a 350,000 baht title deed after the charges were laid. ''I have sold several plots on Koh Samui over the years but had no clue that the foreigners who bought them from me had a bad history. As a developer, I admit that there are problems with title deeds on Koh Samui but I did not know which process was problematic,'' he said. He bought land through lawyers and never knew any members of the Bandidos motorcycle gang. ''It was not possible to know all your clients and who they really were,'' he said. The DSI in a raid last Tuesday arrested three foreigners and a Thai, who was a former land official on Koh Samui, and charged them with extortion and malfeasance. Mr Pratheep was one of the seven suspects implicated in the illegal issuance of land documents on the resort island. The DSI yesterday also brought Kim Lindergaard Neilsen, a 36-year-old Dane charged in the case, to the Criminal Court. Meanwhile, the Land Department has transferred three land officials for their alleged involvement in the illegal issuance of land documents to developers of the Peak property project, a reliable source said yesterday. The three were ordered transferred by Land Department chief Pirapol Tritotsavit. The suspects, who were not named, were moved to inactive posts to facilitate the inquiry. One was transferred on July 18 and the other two, who were C-5 and C-6 level officials, on July 21. State action on The Peak project on Koh Samui, which had allegedly acquired land illegally on Khao Dang and Khao Duang Nok mountain, followed after advertisements for the sale of 514 rai of land on a website and in a property trading guide were placed by Samui Property Solutions, a foreign firm. The land, being sold for up to eight million baht a rai, for a total of 4.1 billion baht, set alarm bells ringing and a crackdown was ordered to put an end to land encroachment by tourist resorts. Surat Thani Ssenator Pravit Nilwatcharamanee said the government should take the land scandal seriously and bring those behind the encroachments and money-laundering to justice.

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    Real Estate Ownership & Long Term Visas

    By Rochester, NY, Created on: 29/12/2008, Last updated on: 18/06/2009

    » My first introduction to Thailand was long ago. I've been married to my Thai wife 37 yrs. She visits family every 4-5 years. I recently returned for the first time and spent October visiting with family and old friends. I'm approaching that age when retirement is likely around the corner. The...

    • charlie commented : on the island has also led to encroachment problems here, he said. As a key market for property companies, Phuket is a constant source of problems and complaints to the director general’s office, he admitted. “We will try to resolve these problems and develop our personnel continuously in order to provide high quality services. Fortunately the governor of Phuket used to work in the Land Department, so he understands the procedures and can help co-ordinate all the agencies involved,” he said. Mr Anuwat was speaking of Phuket Governor Wichai Phraisa-ngop, who served as Land Office director in Nakhon Pathom in 1997 and as deputy director of the Land Department nationwide in 2003. ---------------------------------------------------------------

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    Land purchase through Thai spouse forbidden: Land Dept

    By Suttisan, Created on: 28/05/2009, Last updated on: 02/10/2016

    » -- Land purchase through Thai spouse forbidden: Land Dept The director general of the Land Department has reiterated that foreigners using Thai nominees to buy land anywhere in the country will have their land title deeds revoked if caught – even if the nominee in question is a lawfully wedded...

    • Jason McDonald commented : to worry about with potential encroachments on its sovereignty on virtually every border, plus the troubles controlling the population within. The problems you are talking about are deeply entrenched in the Thai culture and within the language. This makes it very hard to change. Even really nice Thai people, who I meet every day, cannot help but be racist because of their culture and language. They find it hard to think any other way. That is why a Thai person who lives in a western country, enjoying all of the west’s relative freedoms still supports the Thai racist way. Just roll over and accept it and enjoy the other benefits that Thailand offers (which are many or we wouldn’t be discussing this) or go to Vietnam which, in my opinion, will overtake Thailand as the place to be on the SE Asian Peninsula in the near future.

    • Thomasdue commented : on the island has also led to encroachment problems here, he said. As a key market for property companies, Phuket is a constant source of problems and complaints to the director general’s office, he admitted. “We will try to resolve these problems and develop our personnel continuously in order to provide high quality services. Fortunately the governor of Phuket used to work in the Land Department, so he understands the procedures and can help co-ordinate all the agencies involved,” he said. Mr Anuwat was speaking of Phuket Governor Wichai Phraisa-ngop, who served as Land Office director in Nakhon Pathom in 1997 and as deputy director of the Land Department nationwide in 2003. -- Phuket Gazette 2009-05-27 If this is true it looks like me and my wife will be taking all our money away from Thailand and going back to a less prejudiced society.[/quote:2urqxx57] The Land department are like most government officials small minded clowns. And if your married you can buy a home with your wife and it is not that racist mans business. Thailand is one of the most vracist countries in the world. They nuse that Thainess world as a excuse to control and humuliate people. I do not give a rats ass what he says and I will buy 4 houses with my wife its hers and mine... Go fix your own country Sir and clean your own back yard up... It is well needed

    • 186 replies, 1,555,754 views

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