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    Buying property in Thailand

    By Anonymous, Created on: 17/02/2006, Last updated on: 11/11/2011

    » Nothing much to say here is there, i think that IAN has told us all there is to know and believe me.......... .he's right.

    • Anonymous commented : BANGKOKPOST, 24 JULY 2006 DATELINEBangkok Land scandalon Samui needs study Prachachart Turakij editorial _ Over two decades ago, Samui was known as a paradise island with beautiful beaches and verdant forests. As tourism grew, property developers descended on the island. New hotels and luxury housing projects sprouted up. Land prices skyrocketed. Samui is back in the news, but for a different reason. Two weeks ago, Surat Thani provincial authorities began looking into possible encroachment onto forest reserve land and other illegal ownership. Caretaker Natural Resources and Environment Minister Yongyuth Tiyapairat flew to the island with investigators. He said there was evidence that several plots of land around Khao Dang and Khao Duangnok might have been obtained illegally for sale to foreigners. Meanwhile, another investigation was launched by Pien Yongnu, head of the Bangkok Metropolitan Waterworks Labour Union, who claimed that leading members of the ruling Thai Rak Thai party had bought large parcels of land from local villagers and later obtained title deeds. Sand was dumped onto rocky beaches while local authorities were ordered to cut a new road into the area, Mr Pien claimed. Our own investigations reveal that foreign companies are involved in the current land development boom on Samui. Big advertisements for property projects have appeared in Thai and foreign media to draw foreign buyers. Some of these projects are operated by foreigners who use Thai proxies to set up companies here. With a lot of money at their disposal, these foreign property developers buy land along the beaches and on the hills. We urge caretaker Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra to look into this matter and take action against anyone found to have violated the law.

    • 119 replies, 367,763 views

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    About Face.

    By Sean Moran, Created on: 14/10/2008, Last updated on: 13/04/2014

    » One olde axiom that comes to mind is, '[i:3b539sim]If you can't say something nice, then keep your mouth s.h.u.t.[/i:3b539sim]' Just a thread that pertains to one of the cultural differences one might notice in venturing from a typical 'westernised' society of the assertive kind to the shores of...

    • Sean Moran commented : Sorry to take so long to reply, Eddy. I'm afraid I have had trouble since the new tab-bar forum was implemented because I can't seem to view the active topics list like I have the habit of, meaning that I must now scan the entire forum in a painstakingly slow [i:35srickx]sub-forum by sub-forum[/i:35srickx] manner for dates and times to determine if anyone has said anything new, and I'm meant to be the OP on this thread so I should respond but sorry to have left it so long. I hadn't realised until I went looking/browsing through the column on the difference between Thais and Foreigners that somebody interesting had posted something. May I reply succinctly with a thematic clarification of your essay? Just regarding the emboldened statement, are you implying that one of the most significant aspects of "Face" (from a stereotypical Thai perspective towards foreigners) is that any Thai knows that there is no telling whether the unknown quantity will or will not have the most rudimentary understanding of Face, which, in the event of a mishap, is likely to used as a plea of ignorance ("This ain't the way momma does it back home on the farm") by which to absolve themselves of any responsibility for the ensuing loss of Face they bring about, of which there is an high probability that; particularly for FOB farang; there is a good change that they probably don't have any left to lose anyway ? Could the "Pulling My Own String" approach to Face be alikened to "Can't get blood from a stone" ? [quote="fast eddy":35srickx]Good call on the topic! As many have stated, the concept of 'face' is a major cop out! [b:35srickx]You don't have to take responsibility for your actions[/b:35srickx] as those who point them out to you make you loose face which therefore makes them the villain of the piece and you the angel. The balance of right and wrong have now shifted into your favour even though you caused the problem in the first place - like yer man Shinawatra who is using this cop out to try to return to Thailand without going to jail or loosing his ill gotten gains. As for the 'white lie' connection. Yes, I totally agree that this is a part of the 'saving face' mechanism. Of course, it also perpetuates root deficiencies in the culture. Who can forget the H5N1 fiasco in Thailand where a senior EU minister was given a tour of Thailand by a senior Thai minister with the purpose of proving that Thailand was free from bird flu and that it was all malicious speculation to make Thailand loose 'face' to the rest of the world. Of course, two weeks later, Thailand had to 'fess up and declare a body count on top of the widespread reports of the virus. The EU minister was livid as he'd reassured the EU that all was well with Thai chickens only days before. The Thai minister's take was reported in the papers - he stated that there are many forms of truth and he just told the EU minister the version of the truth the EU minister wanted to hear! Now this is a very dangerous and unforgiveable use of the 'white lie' whereas '... of course I love you, baby' just before a bj is in the offing is totally acceptable in my book . It's all a question of degree and what you consider is bogus and what is to be expected in a non-upfront culture. [b:35srickx]You must have noticed that there is never a one on one - man to man punch-up in Thailand among the Thais[/b:35srickx] - they always come mob handed and tooled up and probably from your blindside! That is their culture just as doing anything not to loose face is! Forewarned is forearmed! As the porn shop manager in 9mm said 'Rule no.1 - there is always a victim. Rule no. 2 is 'don't be it!' Hope I get my three months deposit back when I move out of my house?!!!! [/quote:35srickx] Regarding this second emboldened fallacy, please note the illustration below. [img:35srickx]http://www.geocities.com/smorandom/img/kwaibpai.jpg[/img:35srickx]

    • fast eddy commented : Good call on the topic! As many have stated, the concept of 'face' is a major cop out! You don't have to take responsibility for your actions as those who point them out to you make you loose face which therefore makes them the villain of the piece and you the angel. The balance of right and wrong have now shifted into your favour even though you caused the problem in the first place - like yer man Shinawatra who is using this cop out to try to return to Thailand without going to jail or loosing his ill gotten gains. As for the 'white lie' connection. Yes, I totally agree that this is a part of the 'saving face' mechanism. Of course, it also perpetuates root deficiencies in the culture. Who can forget the H5N1 fiasco in Thailand where a senior EU minister was given a tour of Thailand by a senior Thai minister with the purpose of proving that Thailand was free from bird flu and that it was all malicious speculation to make Thailand loose 'face' to the rest of the world. Of course, two weeks later, Thailand had to 'fess up and declare a body count on top of the widespread reports of the virus. The EU minister was livid as he'd reassured the EU that all was well with Thai chickens only days before. The Thai minister's take was reported in the papers - he stated that there are many forms of truth and he just told the EU minister the version of the truth the EU minister wanted to hear! Now this is a very dangerous and unforgiveable use of the 'white lie' whereas '... of course I love you, baby' just before a bj is in the offing is totally acceptable in my book . It's all a question of degree and what you consider is bogus and what is to be expected in a non-upfront culture. You must have noticed that there is never a one on one - man to man punch-up in Thailand among the Thais - they always come mob handed and tooled up and probably from your blindside! That is their culture just as doing anything not to loose face is! Forewarned is forearmed! As the porn shop manager in 9mm said 'Rule no.1 - there is always a victim. Rule no. 2 is 'don't be it!' Hope I get my three months deposit back when I move out of my house?!!!!

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    Land purchase through Thai spouse forbidden: Land Dept

    By Suttisan, Created on: 28/05/2009, Last updated on: 02/10/2016

    » -- Land purchase through Thai spouse forbidden: Land Dept The director general of the Land Department has reiterated that foreigners using Thai nominees to buy land anywhere in the country will have their land title deeds revoked if caught – even if the nominee in question is a lawfully wedded...

    • Chaem commented : I am quite new here. To Thailand and this forum. But it seems to me Internationally, Anybody has the legal means can buy land for his/her personal use in any country of the world. (in any democratic country, that is !) My wife, a dental nurse + Thai (!) bought a small plot in Switzerland recently to put up a very small "chalet" next year. Being married for 19 years now we never gave it a thought in who's name this small piece of land should be, we just decided to buy it + ... we did it to spend a few weeks every winter there together. An ex-Prime Minister Mr. Shinawatra (a Thai national) fled the country as a convict and bought a big peace of property in England legally ! I do not understand the logic behind the view of the government in Thail. that not even a man married to a Thai wife can be the owner of a plot of land big enough to house his family. In the end, This piece of earth for a house, does not belong to the government nor any minister nor can it be removed and taken to another country/planet. Any 'owner' can only be owner for a limited time. The actual ground nobody can be his /her for ever + ever. I personally can see no reason why any person can not buy a peace af land for his and his familys need here. In short: if a Thai national can build a house in (let's say) Germany, why can a German not buy a house in Thailand. Can logicially someone explain this to me ?!

    • Ludwig commented : [quote="AjarnV":398bhfml][quote="Chaem":398bhfml]I am quite new here. To Thailand and this forum. But it seems to me Internationally, Anybody has the legal means can buy land for his/her personal use in any country of the world. (in any democratic country, that is !) My wife, a dental nurse + Thai (!) bought a small plot in Switzerland recently to put up a very small "chalet" next year. Being married for 19 years now we never gave it a thought in who's name this small piece of land should be, we just decided to buy it + ... we did it to spend a few weeks every winter there together. An ex-Prime Minister Mr. Shinawatra (a Thai national) fled the country as a convict and bought a big peace of property in England legally ! I do not understand the logic behind the view of the government in Thail. that not even a man married to a Thai wife can be the owner of a plot of land big enough to house his family. In the end, This piece of earth for a house, does not belong to the government nor any minister nor can it be removed and taken to another country/planet. Any 'owner' can only be owner for a limited time. The actual ground nobody can be his /her for ever + ever. I personally can see no reason why any person can not buy a peace af land for his and his familys need here. [b:398bhfml]In short: if a Thai national can build a house in (let's say) Germany, why can a German not buy a house in Thailand. Can logicially someone explain this to me ?![/quote:398bhfml] [/b:398bhfml] The short answer to your question is, No. [/quote:398bhfml] Germans not Thai go to Canada the land is less and much better you will make money , and you safe . Why invest so where , where you not welcome !

    • AjarnV commented : [quote="Chaem":1w434g1o]I am quite new here. To Thailand and this forum. But it seems to me Internationally, Anybody has the legal means can buy land for his/her personal use in any country of the world. (in any democratic country, that is !) My wife, a dental nurse + Thai (!) bought a small plot in Switzerland recently to put up a very small "chalet" next year. Being married for 19 years now we never gave it a thought in who's name this small piece of land should be, we just decided to buy it + ... we did it to spend a few weeks every winter there together. An ex-Prime Minister Mr. Shinawatra (a Thai national) fled the country as a convict and bought a big peace of property in England legally ! I do not understand the logic behind the view of the government in Thail. that not even a man married to a Thai wife can be the owner of a plot of land big enough to house his family. In the end, This piece of earth for a house, does not belong to the government nor any minister nor can it be removed and taken to another country/planet. Any 'owner' can only be owner for a limited time. The actual ground nobody can be his /her for ever + ever. I personally can see no reason why any person can not buy a peace af land for his and his familys need here. [b:1w434g1o]In short: if a Thai national can build a house in (let's say) Germany, why can a German not buy a house in Thailand. Can logicially someone explain this to me ?![/quote:1w434g1o] [/b:1w434g1o] The short answer to your question is, No.

    • 186 replies, 1,555,754 views

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    How teachers deal with mistakes found in textbooks

    Learningpost, Timothy Cornwall, PHD, DTM, Published on 05/01/2010

    » When textbook mistakes are encountered, steps should be taken to verify that perceived errors are incorrect and if so, to decide if they should be dealt with overtly; covertly avoided by skipping that part of the text; or ignored and hope students do not notice.

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    Giving directions in English

    Learningpost, Timothy Cornwall, PHD, DTM, Published on 12/01/2010

    » Getting around Bangkok is not all that difficult. All you need to do is get an address, take the train at the nearest BTS or MRT station, get into a taxi and hope for the best. However, what happens when a) places are not near a station and b) few, if any, signs are in English?

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    What's in a name? Plenty in this country

    Brunch, Andrew Biggs, Published on 17/01/2010

    » There is a building not far from my home in salubrious Samut Prakan that I happen to pass whenever I take a shortcut to Sukhumvit Road. It's a boring, designless concrete factory or shop or something or other. And out the very front, in very big letters, is the name of the business: "NEWISH GERMS".

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    Techniques for teaching adults

    Learningpost, Timothy Cornwall, PHD, DTM, Published on 19/01/2010

    » I believe adult students learn best when they know what is required to complete an exercise and, more importantly, when they know why they are doing it. Unlike younger pupils, adult students need to see the benefit in undertaking a task. They must have the confidence that they can complete what has been asked and that, when it is finished, there will be some intrinsic or extrinsic benefit from what they have completed.

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